{"id":144499,"date":"2015-03-14T04:41:59","date_gmt":"2015-03-14T04:41:59","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/rinf.com\/alt-news\/?p=144499"},"modified":"2015-03-14T05:14:02","modified_gmt":"2015-03-14T05:14:02","slug":"fox-news-expert-says-we-must-start-killing-russians-i-disagree","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/rinf.com\/alt-news\/editorials\/fox-news-expert-says-we-must-start-killing-russians-i-disagree\/","title":{"rendered":"Fox &#8216;News&#8217; &#8216;Expert&#8217; Says We Must &#8220;Start Killing Russians.&#8221; I Disagree."},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"p1\">Eric Zuesse<\/p>\n<p class=\"p3\"><span class=\"s2\">On\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=bvn3LEx9dhw#t=217\"><span class=\"s3\">this video from Fox &#8216;News&#8217;:<\/span><\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">At 3:30, Lou Dobbs asks the Fox Noise military analyst: \u201cWhat do you expect\u201d in Ukraine?<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">At 3:35 he answers: \u201cIn the Ukraine, the only way that the United States can have any effect in this region and turn the tide is to start killing Russians \u2026 \u00a0killing so many Russians that even Putin\u2019s media can\u2019t hide the fact that Russians are returning to the motherland in body bags.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Well, anyway, there is a Republican \u2018news\u2019 operation: \u201cStart killing Russians.\u201d They hate Russians so much the hate practically bleeds from them, even in public. Democratic Party \u2018news\u2019 operatives are so much more subtle about it, such as <a href=\"http:\/\/dailycaller.com\/2014\/08\/28\/obama-no-military-aid-for-ukraine\/\"><span class=\"s4\">\u201cA military solution to this problem is not going to be forthcoming.\u201d<\/span><\/a> But they too\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.washingtonsblog.com\/2015\/02\/propaganda-success-u-s-govt-reveled-success-lying-propaganda.html\"><span class=\"s5\">demonize Russians and portray Putin<\/span><\/a>\u00a0as the super-demon.\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.washingtonsblog.com\/2015\/03\/public-deceived-news.html\"><span class=\"s4\">They\u2019re just more subtle about their war-mongering and promotion of the international aristocracy,<\/span><\/a> than Republicans are.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">What the Fox \u2018expert\u2019 was specifically promoting there, to \u201cKill Russians,\u201d is actually what the regime\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=8-RyOaFwcEw\"><span class=\"s5\">that Obama imposed upon Ukraine<\/span><\/a>\u00a0had been installed\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=c-NzhHv6AAo&amp;list=UUtvrV_ifhx0EDhmPPRl7adQ\"><span class=\"s5\">in order to do<\/span><\/a>. And, so, immediately when they took power in late February of 2014, they\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.washingtonsblog.com\/2014\/06\/ukraine-international-war-criminal-obama-putin-2.html\"><span class=\"s5\">demonized ethnic Russians and threatened to kill all Russians<\/span><\/a>. They then\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/rinf.com\/alt-news\/editorials\/enemies-ukraine-speak\/\"><span class=\"s5\">intensively bombed the ethnic Russian region of Ukraine<\/span><\/a>, as a starter to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.washingtonsblog.com\/2014\/06\/ukraine-international-war-criminal-obama-putin-2.html\"><span class=\"s4\">get rid of Russians and pro-Russians everywhere.<\/span><\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">However, Fox\u2019s \u2018expert\u2019 was suggesting to kill Russian troops inside Ukraine, which wouldn\u2019t have been quite as heartless as what the Obama-coup-regime in Ukraine is actually doing (and which Fox and all of U.S. TV ignore): slaughtering the <i>residents<\/i> in the conflict-zone. The only snafu with that idea of killing Russian troops in the conflict-zone is: they aren\u2019t there. <a href=\"http:\/\/rinf.com\/alt-news\/featured\/russia-now-joined-ukrainian-civil-war-lying-deny\/\"><span class=\"s4\">The few Russian soldiers that actually had been in the conflict-zone, briefly, back in August of 2014<\/span><\/a>, soon left and are no longer there. On 29 January 2015, Ukraine\u2019s top general admitted,\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/rinf.com\/alt-news\/featured\/ukrainian-government-russian-troops-fighting-us\/\"><span class=\"s5\">\u201cNo Russian Troops Are Fighting Against Us,\u201d<\/span><\/a>\u00a0though mercenaries and\/or volunteer fighters from many countries (including from the U.S.) were fighting on both sides (America\u2019s were\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.dailymail.co.uk\/news\/article-2576490\/Are-Blackwater-active-Ukraine-Videos-spark-talk-U-S-mercenary-outfit-deployed-Donetsk.html\"><span class=\"s5\">mercenaries, fighting for the Ukrainian Government<\/span><\/a>).\u00a0So: Fox\u2019s \u2018information\u2019 was six months out-of-date, and had been valid only seven months ago, and for less than a month even then. That\u2019s the trash that Fox Noise puts forth, but it\u2019s really not much worse than <a href=\"http:\/\/rinf.com\/alt-news\/featured\/big-lie-news-reporting-ukraine-russia\/\"><span class=\"s4\">CNN<\/span><\/a> etc. American national \u2018news\u2019 media are virtually all propaganda-media.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">The Fox commentator simply cannot fathom that when the Ukrainian Government started bombing the cities and villages in the region of Ukraine that rejected the coup-government \u2013 the Donbass region \u2013 many of its men took up arms and became unwilling soldiers in order to protect their families, friends, and towns and villages, against the bombers and the other invaders. The Donbass defenders are <i>not Russian soldiers<\/i>.\u00a0They\u2019re overwhelmingly the natives there \u2013 the ones that are still alive and haven\u2019t fled.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Such commentators as this crude and callous man at Fox have no idea, no concept, how much higher is the motivation to fight when what one is fighting against is invaders, and what one is fighting for is the land on which one has lived one\u2019s whole life and where one\u2019s parents spent their whole lives.\u00a0Bullies don\u2019t think about things from the victim\u2019s standpoint. And Fox\u2019s commentator viewed things from a bully\u2019s perspective.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Yes, Russia provides military advice and training (to the victims\u2019 side), just as the U.S. provides military advice and training (to the invading side), but is that a crime when Russia does it? It\u2019s a crime when America does it, because America (via its stooge-regime) <i>is<\/i> the invader, and because Ukraine (by virtue of its proximity to Russia) has at least as much strategic importance to Russia today as Cuba did to the United States during the Cuban Missile Crisis in 1962. What\u2019s the crime here is America\u2019s determination to place nuclear missiles in Ukraine, right on Russia\u2019s border \u2013 and that\u2019s the reason behind that\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=8-RyOaFwcEw\"><span class=\"s5\">coup in Ukraine<\/span><\/a>\u00a0(and the head of Stratfor called it\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/rinf.com\/alt-news\/editorials\/head-stratfor-private-cia-says-overthrow-yanukovych-blatant-coup-history\/\"><span class=\"s5\">\u201cthe most blatant coup in history,\u201d<\/span><\/a>\u00a0but you didn\u2019t read about that coup in places such as <i>TIME<\/i> or <i>The New York Times<\/i>). (Oh, they called it a victory for democracy. That\u2019s like <i>1984<\/i> \u2018democracy.\u2019) And Putin should demand that the U.S. get out of Russia\u2019s neighborhood. If Russia surrounded the U.S. with its bases, would we stand for it? Why should <i>they<\/i>?<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Communism is over. The only reason for what Obama is doing in Ukraine is conquest. It\u2019s raw; it is fascist, but in pretty words.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p3\"><span class=\"s6\"><a href=\"http:\/\/rinf.com\/alt-news\/featured\/eu-increasingly-abandons-obama-ukraine\/\">Many of Europe\u2019s leaders don\u2019t have the stomach<\/a><\/span><span class=\"s2\">\u00a0for that disgusting crime which America\u2019s President and\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/rinf.com\/alt-news\/featured\/u-s-congress-now-virtually-100-ukraines-war-russia-americans-least-67-opposed\/\"><span class=\"s3\">Congress<\/span><\/a>\u00a0are perpetrating against Russia \u2013 first, the\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=8-RyOaFwcEw\"><span class=\"s3\">coup<\/span><\/a>,\u00a0and then the\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/rinf.com\/alt-news\/editorials\/obamas-ukrainian-stooges\/\"><span class=\"s3\">genocide against the residents in Donbass<\/span><\/a>. So,\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/rinf.com\/alt-news\/featured\/eu-increasingly-abandons-obama-ukraine\/\"><span class=\"s3\">there is resistance in the EU<\/span><\/a>\u00a0(though <i>not<\/i> in the U.S., which shows how\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/rinf.com\/alt-news\/featured\/propaganda-success-u-s-govt-reveled-success-lying-propaganda\/\"><span class=\"s3\">virtually total is the propaganda here<\/span><\/a>\u00a0\u2013 it\u2019s\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/rinf.com\/alt-news\/featured\/entire-case-sanctions-russia-pure-lies\/\"><span class=\"s3\">like a dictatorship<\/span><\/a>).<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Right now, the man whom Victoria Nuland of Obama\u2019s State Department\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=MSxaa-67yGM\"><span class=\"s5\">appointed on 4 February 2014<\/span><\/a>\u00a0(18 days before the coup), to lead the post-coup Ukrainian government, Arseniy Yatsenyuk, is still\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/rinf.com\/alt-news\/featured\/ukraines-prime-minister-yatsenyuk-declares-war-on-russia\/\"><span class=\"s5\">determined to destroy Russia<\/span><\/a>. But if this fact, alone, isn\u2019t enough to get the decent nations in Europe to abandon the U.S. and even to leave both NATO and the EU and maybe to join with Russia if necessary to do so, then we are all headed for a nuclear war, because the psychopathy reigning at the very top of the U.S. Government is really extreme and has careened out of control. Never before in history has an American President installed an <a href=\"http:\/\/rinf.com\/alt-news\/editorials\/obamas-ukrainian-stooges\/\"><span class=\"s4\">outright nazi<\/span><\/a> government, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=WPcilPbC0uA\"><span class=\"s4\">anywhere<\/span><\/a>.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">What\u2019s shown on Fox Noise is merely a more-honest version of that psychopathy, but the psychopathy is just as bad on\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/rinf.com\/alt-news\/featured\/brookings-wants-villages-firebombed-ukraines-anti-terrorist-operation\/\"><span class=\"s5\">the more subtle \u2018liberal\u2019 side<\/span><\/a>. (And also see\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/rinf.com\/alt-news\/featured\/dailykoss-cover-obamas-ukrainian-atrocities\/\"><span class=\"s5\">this<\/span><\/a>.)\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">The only thing that can even possibly restrain it now is Europe\u2019s abandonment of it \u2013 and of the U.S. And, if that\u2019s simply too much to ask from Europe, then there will be curtains soon for all of planet Earth, because Putin won\u2019t be able to tolerate much longer the American Government\u2019s surrounding Russia with its and NATO\u2019s military bases and missiles. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">When Obama took over Ukraine, in February 2014, Putin had to respond, and he did. (Russia is being punished for responding, but the U.S. isn\u2019t being punished for the coup and ethnic cleansing that Russia is only responding to. In international affairs, there is no justice.) But if America doesn\u2019t reverse itself now and just back off, the entire world will suffer enormous consequences. America won\u2019t need to apologize; tyrannical regimes don\u2019t do that. What\u2019s needed instead is for the tyranny to stop, and only <a href=\"http:\/\/rinf.com\/alt-news\/featured\/tentative-deal-reached-settle-ukraine-war\/\"><span class=\"s4\">Europe<\/span><\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/rinf.com\/alt-news\/featured\/japans-orwellian-politics-about-ukraine\/\"><span class=\"s4\">Japan<\/span><\/a> possess the ability to get this country to do that.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">The American Presidents from Reagan on, and certainly <i>after<\/i> Reagan, have consistently followed this plan of encircling and choking-off Russia, and have by their actions defined America throughout this time as the supreme rogue nation, and its \u2019news\u2019 media are all just part of that propaganda-operation, for lying this nation into so many invasions, which destroy so many nations. Either the super-rogue will stop, or the world will stop.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Because things have gotten to such a point that either America will be stopped peacefully by its allies abandoning it, or else America will be stopped violently by Russia preemptively nuclear-attacking it, which will destroy the whole world.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">The fate of the world is in the hands of America\u2019s allies, who must quickly become former allies.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">The world\u2019s big bully on the block needs to become isolated; he needs to lose his gang. That\u2019s what needs to happen, now.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">In Gallup\u2019s only international poll on the subject (in 2014), which surveyed 66,000 people in 65 nations, the U.S. was overwhelmingly <a href=\"http:\/\/www.informationclearinghouse.info\/article40463.htm\"><span class=\"s4\">the most frequently cited nation<\/span><\/a> as being \u201cthe greatest threat to peace in the world today.\u201d And that was <i>before<\/i> the coup, and before the ethnic cleansing, which have placed the world clearly on the path to nuclear annihilation. Russia wasn\u2019t even among the top seven nations that were mentioned in that poll. But now the big bully on the block is going after him. Will the bully\u2019s friends join in? Let\u2019s hope not. Let\u2019s hope they\u2019ll abandon him \u2013 and quickly.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p5\"><span class=\"s1\">&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p7\"><span class=\"s7\">Investigative historian Eric Zuesse is the author, most recently, of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Theyre-Not-Even-Close-Democratic\/dp\/1880026090\/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1339027537&amp;sr=8-9\"><span class=\"s6\"><i>They\u2019re Not Even Close: The Democratic vs. Republican Economic Records, 1910-2010<\/i><\/span><\/a><i>,<\/i> and of<i>\u00a0<\/i><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/dp\/B007Q1H4EG\"><span class=\"s6\"><i>CHRIST\u2019S VENTRILOQUISTS: The Event that Created Christianity<\/i><\/span><\/a>, and\u00a0of\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.worldeconomicsassociation.org\/downloads\/feudalism-fascism-libertarianism-and-economics\/\"><span class=\"s6\"><i>Feudalism, Fascism, Libertarianism and Economics<\/i><\/span><\/a>.<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Eric Zuesse On\u00a0this video from Fox &#8216;News&#8217;: At 3:30, Lou Dobbs asks the Fox Noise military analyst: \u201cWhat do you expect\u201d in Ukraine? At 3:35 he answers: \u201cIn the Ukraine, the only way that the United States can have any effect in this region and turn the tide is to start killing Russians \u2026 \u00a0killing [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1254,"featured_media":144500,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[461,1622],"tags":[115,30,96,891,535,59,526,890,524,523,49,76,40],"class_list":{"0":"post-144499","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-editorials","8":"category-featured","9":"tag-barack-obama","10":"tag-big-brother","11":"tag-cover-up","12":"tag-fox-news","13":"tag-global-news","14":"tag-military","15":"tag-propaganda","16":"tag-rupert-murdoch","17":"tag-russia","18":"tag-ukraine","19":"tag-usa-news","20":"tag-warfare","21":"tag-white-house"},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/rinf.com\/alt-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/144499","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/rinf.com\/alt-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/rinf.com\/alt-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/rinf.com\/alt-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1254"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/rinf.com\/alt-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=144499"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/rinf.com\/alt-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/144499\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/rinf.com\/alt-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/144500"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/rinf.com\/alt-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=144499"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/rinf.com\/alt-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=144499"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/rinf.com\/alt-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=144499"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}