{"id":91916,"date":"2013-11-17T12:35:04","date_gmt":"2013-11-17T11:35:04","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/memoryholeblog.com\/2013\/11\/17\/thom-hartmanns-war-on-your-mind\/"},"modified":"2013-11-17T12:35:04","modified_gmt":"2013-11-17T11:35:04","slug":"thom-hartmanns-war-on-your-mind","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/rinf.com\/alt-news\/editorials\/thom-hartmanns-war-on-your-mind\/","title":{"rendered":"Thom Hartmann\u2019s War on Your Mind"},"content":{"rendered":"<div>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"rg_i alignleft c1\" alt=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com\/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ9Pv39Ay7suFaOhbPANOHuXSR0NC49Izf8xyPcWXpGRlZzYHSu\"\/>By James F. Tracy<\/p>\n<p>In October a <a href=\"http:\/\/redirect.viglink.com\/?key=11fe087258b6fc0532a5ccfc924805c0&#038;u=http%3A%2F%2Fmemoryholeblog.com%2F2013%2F10%2F30%2Fdelving-into-disinfo-wars%2F\">debate<\/a> ensued on Memory Hole and at Project Censored regarding Alex Jones and Infowars\u2019 legitimacy and trustworthiness as news sources. The exchange began when Nolan Higdon <a href=\"http:\/\/redirect.viglink.com\/?key=11fe087258b6fc0532a5ccfc924805c0&#038;u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.projectcensored.org%2Fdisinfo-wars-alex-jones-war-mind%2F\">presented<\/a> various predictions made by Jones that were not borne out by subsequent events.<\/p>\n<p>Yet it looks as if the gloom and doom-style Jones has been taken to task for is being appropriated and given a \u201cliberal\u201d spin by Thom Hartmann\u2014also a longtime proponent anthropogenic global warming theory. The progressive-left author and talk show host has begun touting his new conspiracy-flavored book, <em>The Great Crash of 2016: The Plot to Destroy America\u2014and What We Can Do to Stop It<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p><span id=\"more-7131\"\/>Hartmann and Jones are well-acquainted, having on occasion simulcast their weekday radio programs where they once expressed mutual appreciation of each others\u2019 views and work. For example, on April 15, 2009 the two personalities co-hosted a remarkable hour-length segment in which they generally found common ground on numerous issues\u2014civil liberties, the financial industry\u2019s gigantic influence over federal governance, the growing militarized police state, and even local militias.<\/p>\n<p>Indeed, at one point during the above referenced broadcast Hartmann remarked, \u201cI think that actually as Americans, Alex, who believe in the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, there\u2019s more that unites [libertarians and progressives] than divides us\u201d (<a href=\"http:\/\/redirect.viglink.com\/?key=11fe087258b6fc0532a5ccfc924805c0&#038;u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DKuLYLgV6tao\">Alex Jones and Thom Hartmann 3\/4<\/a> at 8:55).<\/p>\n<p>Yet in subsequent years, the two personalities drifted apart. As the reality of Obama\u2019s presidency and shifting political winds set in Hartmann went on to host a program at RT where he increasingly <a href=\"http:\/\/redirect.viglink.com\/?key=11fe087258b6fc0532a5ccfc924805c0&#038;u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Dr7Lc0jQHXpw\">disparaged<\/a> Jones and the Truth movement, and from this perch even seemed to vie for a post at MSNBC.<\/p>\n<p>Unlike Jones\u2019 hillbilly-meets-DARPA-whistleblower rants, Hartmann consciously plays the bespectacled scholarly-type, appealing to his self-styled dispassionate and rational progressive audience. Appearing on <em>Democracy Now!<\/em> this week, the liberal talker\u2019s <em>sturm und drang<\/em> economic forecast at first glance resembles not only Jones, but also Texas Congressman Ron Paul, libertarian talk show host Peter Schiff and \u201cFather of Reaganomics\u201d Paul Craig Roberts. Among others, these economic analysts argue that the private Federal Reserve bank\u2019s incessant and fervent money printing will inevitably lead to and intensify the coming economic cataclysm.<\/p>\n<p>Hartmann appears to \u201cborrow\u201d from these observers by arguing that such a crash is indeed unavoidable. Yet in a clear sleight of hand the pedantic doomsayer completely evades the problem of monetary profligacy by suggesting how the Obama administration and Fed are earnestly staving off the final reckoning. Is this White House-inspired (or perhaps sponsored) propaganda? Here are some outtakes and reinterpretations from the recent interview below (beginning at about 2:05).<\/p>\n<p><em>\u201cObama was successful in the first few months of his administration by putting enough of a band aid on it that they\u2019re holding this back with bailing wire and bubble gum.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n<p>[Translation: The Federal Reserve (US Taxpayer) shoveled untold trillions to the bankers and corporatists to temporarily prop up the economy with another gigantic stock market bubble, yet the Fed can&#8217;t print forever.]<\/p>\n<p><em>Hartmann: \u201cBut, Bush had hoped\u2013he saw this coming, the Bush administration\u2013had hoped [sic] that he could wait until November 2008 so that it would be after the election so that it wouldn\u2019t hurt the Republican candidate. He was unsuccessful.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n<p>[Translation: The two party system is continuously at odds and competing to represent the popular will. There\u2019s absolutely no chance that such a crash was engineered by Wall Street financiers to ensure an Obama-Biden victory. Or, \u201cfree markets capitalism\u201d inevitably leads to dire crises.]<\/p>\n<p><em>Hartmann: \u201cThe Obama administration is now\u2013because they\u2019re not doing the real structural changes necessary\u2013they\u2019re hoping they can push it off until 2016 and that\u2019s why we chose that date [in the book\u2019s title]. Now there\u2019s an enormous amount of effort in our government and in the Fed to try to hold this off \u2018til after the election of 2016. Whether they\u2019re successful or not I don\u2019t know [sic]. This literally could happen overnight.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n<p>[Translation: We are doomed! Again, any conflict worthy of public attention takes place directly on the political stage. The good guys\u2013you know, the Democratic Party, the Federal Reserve, and the prevailing economic scheme controlled by central banking&#8211;aren&#8217;t fleecing taxpayers and the economic system but rather saving them.]<\/p>\n<p>Some representatives of the \u201cfanatical right wing\u201d that progressives so readily point to in arguments about the deficit and economy argue that such a crash is in fact being intensified by the careless monetary policies of the Fed, which continue and intensify with the tacit approval of the US Congress and Obama administration. In fact, the federal debt has grown seventy percent under Obama\u2014from $10 to $17 trillion. Such a reckless monetary policy is tailor-made for politicians who cannot resist a money-printing press that allows them to \u201ckick the can down the road,\u201d while leaving Americans with the ever-expanding tab.<\/p>\n<p>Hartmann attempts to commandeer the economic thesis long-articulated by libertarians and their advocacy for \u201csound money,\u201d while tempering it for those who hang on every word uttered by Paul Krugman. The upshot of Hartmann\u2019s (and the overall Keynesian) version, however, is that profligate monetary policy is not the <em>cause<\/em> of the present problem, but remains to a large degree its solution. Nevermind the fact that America\u2019s industrial base has been thoroughly gutted.<\/p>\n<p>For example, Hartmann argues how the buildup to the next disaster is a replay of the prelude to the 1929 crash and, moreover, how both are rooted in \u201cconspiracies\u201d and \u201cplots\u201d developed by \u201ceconomic royalists,\u201d \u201cbanksters,\u201d and \u201cglobalism,\u201d against which the federal bureaucracy (FDR and his postwar successors) wages a valiant struggle.<\/p>\n<p>Yet Hartmann\u2019s sensationalism doesn\u2019t end there. He goes on to reference his previous anthropogenic climate change <a href=\"http:\/\/redirect.viglink.com\/?key=11fe087258b6fc0532a5ccfc924805c0&#038;u=http%3A%2F%2Flasthours.org%2F\">propaganda<\/a>, describing the deathly carbon-based greenhouse gases destined to do us all in should they be allowed to increase even minutely over the next several decades. But wait! The scenario is even more dire. According to Hartmann (at around 12:35 in the <em>DN!<\/em> interview video above), such apocalyptic climate change could take place almost overnight, and is something the (some would argue <a href=\"http:\/\/redirect.viglink.com\/?key=11fe087258b6fc0532a5ccfc924805c0&#038;u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.corbettreport.com%2Fthe-ipcc-exposed-video%2F\">fraudulant<\/a>) United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change \u201cis not talking about.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt\u2019s a very significant stressor,\u201d Hartmann somberly informs Goodman in the November 12 interview. \u201cScientists [and] people are hysterical or very concerned\u201d about the imminent release of<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>trillions of tons of methane hydrate\u2014methane frozen up in ice, in the arctic and around continental shelves. If that melts, then there will be a <em>sudden<\/em> global warming. And when you look at the five past extinctions on planet earth every single one was triggered by one of these methane releases.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>This will come to pass unless, of course, we can drastically reform our behavior and energy consumption \u2026 and assuming the forthcoming economic crash doesn\u2019t get us first, or both don\u2019t hit simultaneously.<\/p>\n<p>But, hey, whoever said that a talk show host should be held accountable for making extravagant claims and suggesting that the modern situation is almost completely hopeless? Further, is the promotion of unfounded conspiracy theories and historical revisionism really all that bad? If you\u2019re championing the \u201ccorrect\u201d political stances then negativity appears to become prophetic, shadowy plots constitute accurate economic and historical analysis and projections, and UN-distilled interpretations of climate science and \u201cgreen\u201d advocacy literature are embraced as genuine climatological research. Taken as a whole, Thom Hartmann delivers the entire package in an absolute war on your mind that is without parallel.<\/p>\n<div id=\"jp-post-flair\" class=\"sharedaddy sd-like-enabled sd-sharing-enabled\">\n<div class=\"sharedaddy sd-block sd-like jetpack-likes-widget-wrapper jetpack-likes-widget-unloaded\" id=\"like-post-wrapper-33484972-7131-5288de2a2b0d0\" data-src=\"\/\/widgets.wp.com\/likes\/#blog_id=33484972&amp;post_id=7131&amp;origin=memorygapdotorg.wordpress.com&amp;obj_id=33484972-7131-5288de2a2b0d0\" data-name=\"like-post-frame-33484972-7131-5288de2a2b0d0\">\n<h3 class=\"sd-title\">Like this:<\/h3>\n<p><span class=\"button\">Like<\/span> <span class=\"loading\">Loading&#8230;<\/span><\/p>\n<p><a class=\"sd-link-color\"\/><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/pixel.quantserve.com\/pixel\/p-89EKCgBk8MZdE.gif\" border=\"0\" height=\"1\" width=\"1\" \/><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<div>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com\/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ9Pv39Ay7suFaOhbPANOHuXSR0NC49Izf8xyPcWXpGRlZzYHSu\">By James F. Tracy<\/p>\n<p>In October a <a href=\"http:\/\/redirect.viglink.com\/?key=11fe087258b6fc0532a5ccfc924805c0&amp;u=http%3A%2F%2Fmemoryholeblog.com%2F2013%2F10%2F30%2Fdelving-into-disinfo-wars%2F\">debate<\/a> ensued on Memory Hole and at Project Censored regarding Alex Jones and Infowars&rsquo; legitimacy and trustworthiness as news sources. The exchange began when Nolan Higdon <a href=\"http:\/\/redirect.viglink.com\/?key=11fe087258b6fc0532a5ccfc924805c0&amp;u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.projectcensored.org%2Fdisinfo-wars-alex-jones-war-mind%2F\">presented<\/a> various predictions made by Jones that were not borne out by subsequent events.<\/p>\n<p>Yet it looks as if the gloom and doom-style Jones has been taken to task for is being appropriated and given a &ldquo;liberal&rdquo; spin by Thom Hartmann&ndash;also a longtime proponent anthropogenic global warming theory. The progressive-left author and talk show host has begun touting his new conspiracy-flavored book, <em>The Great Crash of 2016: The Plot to Destroy America&ndash;and What We Can Do to Stop It<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p><span><\/span>Hartmann and Jones are well-acquainted, having on occasion simulcast their weekday radio programs where they once expressed mutual appreciation of each others&rsquo; views and work. For example, on April 15, 2009 the two personalities co-hosted a remarkable hour-length segment in which they generally found common ground on numerous issues&ndash;civil liberties, the financial industry&rsquo;s gigantic influence over federal governance, the growing militarized police state, and even local militias.<\/p>\n<p>Indeed, at one point during the above referenced broadcast Hartmann remarked, &ldquo;I think that actually as Americans, Alex, who believe in the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, there&rsquo;s more that unites [libertarians and progressives] than divides us&rdquo; (<a href=\"http:\/\/redirect.viglink.com\/?key=11fe087258b6fc0532a5ccfc924805c0&amp;u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DKuLYLgV6tao\">Alex Jones and Thom Hartmann 3\/4<\/a> at 8:55).<\/p>\n<p>Yet in subsequent years, the two personalities drifted apart. As the reality of Obama&rsquo;s presidency and shifting political winds set in Hartmann went on to host a program at RT where he increasingly <a href=\"http:\/\/redirect.viglink.com\/?key=11fe087258b6fc0532a5ccfc924805c0&amp;u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Dr7Lc0jQHXpw\">disparaged<\/a> Jones and the Truth movement, and from this perch even seemed to vie for a post at MSNBC.<\/p>\n<p>Unlike Jones&rsquo; hillbilly-meets-DARPA-whistleblower rants, Hartmann consciously plays the bespectacled scholarly-type, appealing to his self-styled dispassionate and rational progressive audience. Appearing on <em>Democracy Now!<\/em> this week, the liberal talker&rsquo;s <em>sturm und drang<\/em> economic forecast at first glance resembles not only Jones, but also Texas Congressman Ron Paul, libertarian talk show host Peter Schiff and &ldquo;Father of Reaganomics&rdquo; Paul Craig Roberts. Among others, these economic analysts argue that the private Federal Reserve bank&rsquo;s incessant and fervent money printing will inevitably lead to and intensify the coming economic cataclysm.<\/p>\n<p>Hartmann appears to &ldquo;borrow&rdquo; from these observers by arguing that such a crash is indeed unavoidable. Yet in a clear sleight of hand the pedantic doomsayer completely evades the problem of monetary profligacy by suggesting how the Obama administration and Fed are earnestly staving off the final reckoning. Is this White House-inspired (or perhaps sponsored) propaganda? Here are some outtakes and reinterpretations from the recent interview below (beginning at about 2:05).<\/p>\n<p><em>&ldquo;Obama was successful in the first few months of his administration by putting enough of a band aid on it that they&rsquo;re holding this back with bailing wire and bubble gum.&rdquo;<\/em><\/p>\n<p>[Translation: The Federal Reserve (US Taxpayer) shoveled untold trillions to the bankers and corporatists to temporarily prop up the economy with another gigantic stock market bubble, yet the Fed can&#8217;t print forever.]<\/p>\n<p><em>Hartmann: &ldquo;But, Bush had hoped&mdash;he saw this coming, the Bush administration&mdash;had hoped [sic] that he could wait until November 2008 so that it would be after the election so that it wouldn&rsquo;t hurt the Republican candidate. He was unsuccessful.&rdquo;<\/em><\/p>\n<p>[Translation: The two party system is continuously at odds and competing to represent the popular will. There&rsquo;s absolutely no chance that such a crash was engineered by Wall Street financiers to ensure an Obama-Biden victory. Or, &ldquo;free markets capitalism&rdquo; inevitably leads to dire crises.]<\/p>\n<p><em>Hartmann: &ldquo;The Obama administration is now&mdash;because they&rsquo;re not doing the real structural changes necessary&mdash;they&rsquo;re hoping they can push it off until 2016 and that&rsquo;s why we chose that date [in the book&rsquo;s title]. Now there&rsquo;s an enormous amount of effort in our government and in the Fed to try to hold this off &lsquo;til after the election of 2016. Whether they&rsquo;re successful or not I don&rsquo;t know [sic]. This literally could happen overnight.&rdquo;<\/em><\/p>\n<p>[Translation: We are doomed! Again, any conflict worthy of public attention takes place directly on the political stage. The good guys&mdash;you know, the Democratic Party, the Federal Reserve, and the prevailing economic scheme controlled by central banking&#8211;aren&#8217;t fleecing taxpayers and the economic system but rather saving them.]<\/p>\n<p>Some representatives of the &ldquo;fanatical right wing&rdquo; that progressives so readily point to in arguments about the deficit and economy argue that such a crash is in fact being intensified by the careless monetary policies of the Fed, which continue and intensify with the tacit approval of the US Congress and Obama administration. In fact, the federal debt has grown seventy percent under Obama&ndash;from $10 to $17 trillion. Such a reckless monetary policy is tailor-made for politicians who cannot resist a money-printing press that allows them to &ldquo;kick the can down the road,&rdquo; while leaving Americans with the ever-expanding tab.<\/p>\n<p>Hartmann attempts to commandeer the economic thesis long-articulated by libertarians and their advocacy for &ldquo;sound money,&rdquo; while tempering it for those who hang on every word uttered by Paul Krugman. The upshot of Hartmann&rsquo;s (and the overall Keynesian) version, however, is that profligate monetary policy is not the <em>cause<\/em> of the present problem, but remains to a large degree its solution. Nevermind the fact that America&rsquo;s industrial base has been thoroughly gutted.<\/p>\n<p>For example, Hartmann argues how the buildup to the next disaster is a replay of the prelude to the 1929 crash and, moreover, how both are rooted in &ldquo;conspiracies&rdquo; and &ldquo;plots&rdquo; developed by &ldquo;economic royalists,&rdquo; &ldquo;banksters,&rdquo; and &ldquo;globalism,&rdquo; against which the federal bureaucracy (FDR and his postwar successors) wages a valiant struggle.<\/p>\n<p>Yet Hartmann&rsquo;s sensationalism doesn&rsquo;t end there. He goes on to reference his previous anthropogenic&nbsp; climate change <a href=\"http:\/\/redirect.viglink.com\/?key=11fe087258b6fc0532a5ccfc924805c0&amp;u=http%3A%2F%2Flasthours.org%2F\">propaganda<\/a>, describing the deathly carbon-based greenhouse gases destined to do us all in should they be allowed to increase even minutely over the next several decades. But wait! The scenario is even more dire. According to Hartmann (at around 12:35 in the <em>DN!<\/em> interview video above), such apocalyptic climate change could take place almost overnight, and is something the (some would argue <a href=\"http:\/\/redirect.viglink.com\/?key=11fe087258b6fc0532a5ccfc924805c0&amp;u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.corbettreport.com%2Fthe-ipcc-exposed-video%2F\">fraudulant<\/a>) United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change &ldquo;is not talking about.&rdquo;<\/p>\n<p>&ldquo;It&rsquo;s a very significant stressor,&rdquo; Hartmann somberly informs Goodman in the November 12 interview. &ldquo;Scientists [and] people are hysterical or very concerned&rdquo; about the imminent release of<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>trillions of tons of methane hydrate&ndash;methane frozen up in ice, in the arctic and around continental shelves. If that melts, then there will be a <em>sudden<\/em> global warming. And when you look at the five past extinctions on planet earth every single one was triggered by one of these methane releases.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>This will come to pass unless, of course, we can drastically reform our behavior and energy consumption &hellip; and assuming the forthcoming economic crash doesn&rsquo;t get us first, or both don&rsquo;t hit simultaneously.<\/p>\n<p>But, hey, whoever said that a talk show host should be held accountable for making extravagant claims and suggesting that the modern situation is almost completely hopeless? Further, is the promotion of unfounded conspiracy theories and historical revisionism really all that bad? If you&rsquo;re championing the &ldquo;correct&rdquo; political stances then negativity appears to become prophetic, shadowy plots constitute accurate economic and historical analysis and projections, and UN-distilled interpretations of climate science and &ldquo;green&rdquo; advocacy literature are embraced as genuine climatological research. Taken as a whole, Thom Hartmann delivers the entire package in an absolute war on your mind that is without parallel.<\/p>\n<div>\n<div data-src=\"\/\/widgets.wp.com\/likes\/#blog_id=33484972&amp;post_id=7131&amp;origin=memorygapdotorg.wordpress.com&amp;obj_id=33484972-7131-5288de2a2b0d0\" data-name=\"like-post-frame-33484972-7131-5288de2a2b0d0\">\n<h3>Like this:<\/h3>\n<p><span>Like<\/span> <span>Loading&#8230;<\/span><\/p>\n<p><a><\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/pixel.quantserve.com\/pixel\/p-89EKCgBk8MZdE.gif\" border=\"0\" height=\"1\" width=\"1\"><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1238,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[461],"tags":[],"class_list":{"0":"post-91916","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","6":"category-editorials"},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/rinf.com\/alt-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/91916","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/rinf.com\/alt-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/rinf.com\/alt-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/rinf.com\/alt-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1238"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/rinf.com\/alt-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=91916"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"http:\/\/rinf.com\/alt-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/91916\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/rinf.com\/alt-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=91916"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/rinf.com\/alt-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=91916"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/rinf.com\/alt-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=91916"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}