{"id":40750,"date":"2013-06-11T02:37:24","date_gmt":"2013-06-11T01:37:24","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/rinf.com\/alt-news\/breaking-news\/we-still-need-this-debate\/40750\/"},"modified":"2013-06-11T02:37:24","modified_gmt":"2013-06-11T01:37:24","slug":"we-still-need-this-debate","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/rinf.com\/alt-news\/breaking-news\/we-still-need-this-debate\/","title":{"rendered":"We Still Need This Debate"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><!-- We Still Need This Debate --><\/p>\n<h6><a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.truthdig.com\/report\/item\/we_still_need_this_debate_20130610\/\">http:\/\/www.truthdig.com\/report\/item\/we_still_need_this_debate_20130610\/<\/a><\/h6>\n<h4 class=\"date\">Posted on Jun\u00a010,\u00a02013<\/h4>\n<div class=\"printlinks\">\n<span><\/p>\n<p>By Eugene Robinson<\/p>\n<p>The important thing right now isn\u2019t whether Edward Snowden should be labeled hero or villain. First, let\u2019s have the debate he sparked over surveillance and privacy. Then we can decide how history should remember him.<\/p>\n<p>Snowden is the 29-year-old intelligence analyst and computer geek who has been leaking some of the National Security Agency\u2019s most precious secrets to journalists from The Washington Post and the Guardian. He is now on the lam, having checked out of the Hong Kong hotel where he was holed up for several weeks as he orchestrated a worldwide media splash that shows no sign of ending.<\/p>\n<p>Snowden betrayed his employer, the consulting firm Booz Allen Hamilton, and his promise not to divulge classified information. He paints what he did as an act of civil disobedience, but he has decided to seek political asylum abroad rather than surrender to authorities and accept the consequences. In published interviews, he comes across as grandiose to the point of self-parody, a legend in his own mind.<\/p>\n<p>He is an imperfect messenger, to say the least. But his message should not be ignored.<\/p>\n<p>Did you know that the NSA is compiling and storing a massive, comprehensive log of our domestic phone calls? I didn\u2019t. Nor did I know that the agency sucks in huge volumes of email traffic and other electronic data overseas\u2013not just communications originating in trouble spots such as Pakistan but also in countries such as Germany and Britain. I would have thought that anyone who accused the U.S. government of \u201comniscient, automatic, mass surveillance,\u201d as Snowden did in an exchange with Post contributor Barton Gellman, was being paranoid. Now I\u2019m not so sure.<\/p>\n<p>As President Obama noted, nobody is eavesdropping on the phone calls of U.S. citizens and residents. I\u2019m not certain this could be said about email communications in other countries, some of which take privacy as seriously as we do. British Foreign Secretary William Hague felt obliged Monday to reassure Parliament that \u201cour intelligence-sharing work with the United States is subject to ministerial and independent oversight\u201d and to legislative scrutiny.<\/p>\n<p>But we have oversight of intelligence operations in this country, too. The problem is that the system works more or less like a rubber stamp.<\/p>\n<p>The secret Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court has to issue the orders that allow the NSA to collect \u201cmetadata\u201d from telephone providers. But as far as I can tell\u2013we are not allowed to know the content of the court\u2019s rulings, and have to make do with crumbs of, well, metadata\u2013the court\u2019s standard answer is yes.<\/p>\n<p>In its 34 years of existence, the court has approved more than 30,000 government requests for surveillance authority while rejecting a grand total of 11. That is not what I\u2019d call oversight.<\/p>\n<p>The NSA\u2019s snooping is also subject to scrutiny by the intelligence committees of the Senate and the House of Representatives. The chairmen of those panels\u2013Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., and Rep. Mike Rogers, R-Mich.\u2013have been among the NSA\u2019s most vocal supporters in recent days. But since so much of the committees\u2019 work is classified, they say they can\u2019t tell us why. <\/p>\n<p>And as for Obama, he said last week that \u201cI welcome this debate and I think it\u2019s healthy for our democracy.\u201d Why, then, didn\u2019t he launch the discussion rather than wait for Snowden\u2019s leaks?<\/p>\n<p>In the coming debate, someone should explain why a mid-level computer guy working for a private contractor had access to so many of the NSA\u2019s most closely held secrets. Someone should explain why the intelligence court is evidently so compliant. Someone should explain\u2013perhaps in French, German and Spanish\u2013why our allies\u2019 emails are fair game for the agency\u2019s prying eyes.<\/p>\n<p>But here\u2019s the big issue: The NSA, it now seems clear, is assembling an unimaginably vast trove of communications data, and the bigger it gets, the more useful it is in enabling analysts to make predictions. It\u2019s one thing if the NSA looks for patterns in the data that suggest a nascent overseas terrorist group or an imminent attack. It\u2019s another thing altogether if the agency observes, say, patterns that suggest the birth of the next tea party or Occupy Wall Street movement.<\/p>\n<p>Is that paranoia? Then reassure me. Let\u2019s talk about the big picture and decide, as citizens, whether we are comfortable with the direction our intelligence agencies are heading. And let\u2019s remember that it was Snowden, not our elected officials, who opened this vital conversation.<\/p>\n<p><i>Eugene Robinson\u2019s e-mail address is eugenerobinson(at)washpost.com.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><small>\u00a9 2013, Washington Post Writers Group<\/small>\n<\/p>\n<p>    <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.truthdig.com\/images\/eartothegrounduploads\/shutterstock_48922423-300.jpg\" border=\"0\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"200\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Shutterstock photo of <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.shutterstock.com\/cat.mhtml?lang=en&amp;search_source=search_form&amp;version=llv1&amp;anyorall=all&amp;safesearch=1&amp;searchterm=surveillance&amp;search_group=#id=48922423&amp;src=C0yZOPXWSlVtOZVTOHfJ9w-1-28\">surveillance cameras<\/a> <\/p>\n<p><\/span>\n<\/div>\n<p>This article originally appeared on: <a href=\"http:\/\/feedproxy.google.com\/~r\/Truthdig\/Reports\/~3\/5LmiIGJd1io\/\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"We Still Need This Debate\">TruthDig<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>http:\/\/www.truthdig.com\/report\/item\/we_still_need_this_debate_20130610\/ Posted on Jun\u00a010,\u00a02013 By Eugene Robinson The important thing right now isn\u2019t whether Edward Snowden should be labeled hero or villain. First, let\u2019s have the debate he sparked over surveillance and privacy. Then we can decide how history should remember him. Snowden is the 29-year-old intelligence analyst and computer geek who has been leaking [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[487],"tags":[],"class_list":{"0":"post-40750","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","6":"category-breaking-news"},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/rinf.com\/alt-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/40750","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/rinf.com\/alt-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/rinf.com\/alt-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/rinf.com\/alt-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/rinf.com\/alt-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=40750"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"http:\/\/rinf.com\/alt-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/40750\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/rinf.com\/alt-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=40750"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/rinf.com\/alt-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=40750"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/rinf.com\/alt-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=40750"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}