{"id":332787,"date":"2017-10-30T17:27:38","date_gmt":"2017-10-30T16:27:38","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/rinf.com\/alt-news\/?p=332787"},"modified":"2017-10-30T17:32:36","modified_gmt":"2017-10-30T16:32:36","slug":"nato-criticism-russias-ukraine-policy-answered-putin","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/rinf.com\/alt-news\/newswire\/nato-criticism-russias-ukraine-policy-answered-putin\/","title":{"rendered":"NATO Criticism of Russia&#8217;s Ukraine Policy Is Answered by Putin"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Eric Zuesse, originally posted at <a href=\"https:\/\/www.strategic-culture.org\/news\/2017\/10\/30\/nato-criticism-russia-ukraine-policy-answered-putin.html\"><span class=\"s2\">strategic-culture.org<\/span><\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">A NATO supporter criticized Russia\u2019s President Vladimir Putin for Russia\u2019s Ukraine policy, on October 19th, at the Valdai Discussion Club\u2019s annual meeting in Sochi, and Putin fired back with his most detailed statement to-date, describing the overthrow in February 2014 of Ukraine\u2019s democratically elected President Viktor Yanukovych, as having been a \u201ccoup\u201d by the West, especially by the EU (which he blamed for it, rather than blame the U.S.).<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s2\"><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Asle_Toje\">Asle Toje<\/a><\/span><span class=\"s1\">, a Norwegian supporter of the NATO anti-Russian military alliance, had raised this subject when <a href=\"http:\/\/en.kremlin.ru\/events\/president\/news\/55882\"><span class=\"s3\">he asked Putin<\/span><\/a>:<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\"><i>What about Ukraine? From the European point of view, the ball is firmly in the court of Russia. It has turned into a semi-frozen conflict; the sanctions that were meant to be dynamic have become semi-permanent. What does Russia intend to do about this?<\/i><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Putin replied:<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\"><i>Well, we think the ball is in Europe\u2019s court, because due to the completely unconstructive \u2013 I am choosing my words so as not to appear rude \u2013 position of the former members of the European Commission, the situation went as far as a coup.<\/i><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s3\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=MSxaa-67yGM\">On 4 February 2014 the agent whom U.S. President Barack Obama had tasked to plan the coup, Hillary Clinton\u2019s longtime friend Victoria Nuland, instructed the U.S. Ambassador in Ukraine whom to appoint to run Ukraine as soon as the coup would be culminated, which occurred 23 days later, on 27 February: &#8220;Yats is the guy who&#8217;s got the economic experience the governing experience he&#8217;s the\u201d person to appoint<\/a><\/span><span class=\"s1\">, she told the U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine, Geoffrey Pyatt. And \u201cYats\u201d Yatsenyuk got the post, which was the appointment as Prime Minister, because Obama wanted the rabidly anti-Russian Yulia Tymoshenko to win Ukraine\u2019s Presidency in an election, so as to be able to describe the change-of-government as being \u2018democratic\u2019 i.e., \u2018elected\u2019, not imposed (as was the appointment of \u201cYats\u201d). However, Tymoshenko had too much of a public reputation as being a U.S. agent (and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/world\/2004\/nov\/26\/ukraine.gender\"><span class=\"s2\">grifter<\/span><\/a>), for her to win; and, so, Petro Poroshenko won the \u2018election\u2019 instead. It was an \u2018election\u2019 in all of the majority Ukrainian-speaking areas of Ukraine, but without allowing to vote the populations in many of the majority Russian-speaking regions, where the man whom Obama overthrew, Yanukovych, had won by over 75% of the votes, in the last democratic election in Ukraine, which was the Presidential election in 2010 \u2014 the final election in which Ukrainians in all parts of the country voted. Although Poroshenko was anti-Russian, he wasn\u2019t nearly as anti-Russian as was Tymoshenko. Yatsenyuk was Tymoshenko\u2019s subordinate, and he had been selected by Nuland because the Obama Administration were thinking that after the Presidential election, Yats would hand off the government to Tymoshenko, who led Yats\u2019s Party.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Putin blamed the EU for the coup, though (in fact) <a href=\"http:\/\/fortruss.blogspot.com\/2015\/02\/the-paet-ashton-transcript.html\"><span class=\"s3\">when the EU\u2019s Foreign Minister, Catherine Ashton, learned, on February 26th of 2014, that this overthrow had been a coup instead of a democratic revolution, she expressed shock and disappointment but<\/span><\/a> went right on carrying out the Obama Administration\u2019s plan for the integration of the formerly Russia-allied Ukraine into the EU, and, ultimately, as was expected, into NATO, so that U.S. nuclear missiles will be able to be installed there, on Russia\u2019s border, as close to Moscow as possible, for <a href=\"http:\/\/www.zerohedge.com\/news\/2016-12-30\/eric-zuesse-america%E2%80%99s-secret-planned-conquest-russia\"><span class=\"s2\">a blitz-attack against Russia, to conquer Russia<\/span><\/a>. Furthermore, in Nuland\u2019s instruction to the Ambassador in Kiev, she said <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=MSxaa-67yGM\"><span class=\"s3\">\u201cF\u2014k the EU\u201d<\/span><\/a>, because the EU aristocracies weren\u2019t nearly as eager to conquer Russia as the U.S. aristocracy are; the EU aristocracies had wanted <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Vitali_Klitschko\"><span class=\"s2\">Vitaly Klitschko to head Ukraine; Klitschko wasn\u2019t rabidly anti-Russian<\/span><\/a>, like Tymoshenko and Yatsenyuk were. Putin knew this \u2014 he knew that the coup was done by the U.S., not by the EU.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Putin then described <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=8-RyOaFwcEw\"><span class=\"s3\">the coup<\/span><\/a> as follows:<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\"><i>There were riots backed by the United States \u2013 both financially, politically and in the media \u2013 and all of Europe.<\/i><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\"><i>They supported the unconstitutional seizure of power, a bloody one at that, with casualties, and took things as far as a war in southeastern Ukraine. Crimea declared its independence and its reunification with Russia, and now you think that we are to blame for that? Was it us who brought about the anti-constitutional coup? The current situation is the result of the unconstitutional armed seizure of power in Ukraine, and Europe is to blame, because it backed it.<\/i><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\"><i>What could have been easier than to say back then: \u201dYou staged a coup, and after all, we are the guarantors.\u201c As guarantors, the foreign ministers of Poland, France and Germany signed a document, an agreement between President Yanukovych and the opposition. Three days later, it was trampled upon, and where were the guarantors? Ask them where these guarantors were? Why did they not say, \u201dPlease, put things as they were. Get Yanukovych back in office and hold constitutional democratic elections.\u201c They had every chance of winning, 100 percent, no doubt. No, they had to do it through an armed coup instead. Well, we were confronted with this fact, accepted it and signed the Minsk agreements.<\/i><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\"><i>However, the current Ukrainian leadership is sabotaging every paragraph of these agreements, and everyone can see it perfectly well. Those who are involved in the negotiation process are fully aware of it, I assure you. Not a single step has been made towards implementing the Minsk agreements. Still everyone is saying, \u201dSanctions will not be lifted until Russia complies with the Minsk agreements.\u201c<\/i><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\"><i>Everyone has long since realised that the current leadership of Ukraine is not in a position to comply with them. Now that the situation in that country has hit rock bottom both in terms of the economy and domestic policy, and the police are using gas against protesters, expecting the President of Ukraine to take at least a small step towards implementing the Minsk agreements is an exercise in futility. I am not sure how he can accomplish this. But there is no alternative to it, unfortunately. Therefore, we will keep the Normandy format in place as long as our colleagues like, and we will strive to implement these Minsk agreements that you mentioned.<\/i><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Nowhere has Putin ever blamed the U.S. Government for that coup, but he knows at least as much about it as did the head of the \u201cprivate CIA\u201d firm Stratfor when Stratfor\u2019s head described it as <a href=\"http:\/\/rinf.com\/alt-news\/editorials\/head-stratfor-private-cia-says-overthrow-yanukovych-blatant-coup-history\/\"><span class=\"s3\">\u201cthe most blatant coup in history\u201d<\/span><\/a> because it had been so well documented via leaked phone-conversations and other solid evidences. There was no doubt that <a href=\"https:\/\/off-guardian.org\/2017\/03\/24\/what-americas-coup-in-ukraine-did\/\"><span class=\"s3\">the U.S. State Department had run it, and, ultimately, evidence became public that Google and the U.S. State Department were already preparing the operation as early as in 2011<\/span><\/a>.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Putin continued his response:<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\"><i>It is not enough only to appeal to Russia; it is also necessary to influence Kiev\u2019s position. Now they have made a decision on the language, essentially prohibiting the use of ethnic minority languages in school. Hungary and Romania raised objections. Poland also made some comments in this regard. However, the European Union as a whole is silent. Why are they not condemning this? There is silence.<\/i><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\"><i>Now they have erected a monument to Petlyura. He was a man with Nazi views, an anti-Semite who killed Jews during the war. Except for the Zionist Jewish Congress, everyone else is silent. Are you afraid of hurting your clients in Kiev, is that it? This is not being done by the Ukrainian people; this is being done at the prompting of the relevant ruling authorities. But why are you keeping silent?<\/i><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Putin was appealing for the EU to become neutral on the Ukrainian matter, not for the U.S. Government to do so, because Putin recognized that the U.S. Government wants to conquer Russia and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=fWkfpGCAAuw\"><span class=\"s2\">took Ukraine<\/span><\/a> in order to advance that goal, whereas many in the EU want instead to have peace and trade with Russia and aren\u2019t so eager to invade. Putin has given up on <a href=\"http:\/\/www.washingtonsblog.com\/2017\/08\/nations-accept-nazism-today.html\"><span class=\"s2\">America, whose Government is \u2014 along with Ukraine and Canada \u2014 the only defender of nazism (i.e., of racist fascism), at the U.N.<\/span><\/a> But he knows that if he blames the coup on the U.S. Government, this would make more difficult any possible efforts by the EU to move away from the U.S. toward neutrality, because such an accusation against the U.S. Government would only unify NATO, not break it up. He might be able to pick off a few EU members, to move toward neutrality and away from the NATO goal of ultimately invading Russia, but this can work only if he plays down the real power-contest, the contest between <a href=\"http:\/\/www.washingtonsblog.com\/2014\/06\/indications-u-s-planning-nuclear-attack-russia.html\"><span class=\"s2\">the U.S. Government, whose goal is to conquer Russia<\/span><\/a>, versus the Russian Government, whose goal is to remain a free and independent nation \u2014 to protect its national sovereignty. The reason Putin blames the EU instead of the U.S. is thus tactical. Especially interesting is that he says \u201cThis is not being done by the Ukrainian people; this is being done at the prompting of the relevant ruling authorities. But why are you keeping silent?\u201d He is there making his appeal to anti-nazi Europeans, for them to break away from today\u2019s pro-nazi U.S. regime. He is saying: Speak out against it; publicly separate yourselves from it. Then, he said:<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\"><i>I hope that this realisation will eventually come. I can see our partners\u2019 interest, primarily our European partners\u2019 interest in resolving this conflict. I can see real interest. Angela Merkel is doing a great deal, putting the time in, becoming deeply involved in these matters. Both the former president of France and President Macron are also paying attention. They are really working on this. However, it is necessary to work not just technically and technologically but politically. It is essential to exert some influence on the Kiev authorities, get them to do at least something. Ultimately, Ukraine itself has a stake in normalising our relations.<\/i><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\"><i>Now they went and imposed sanctions on us, as the EU did. We responded in kind. The president asks me, \u201cWhy did you do this?\u201d I say, \u201cListen, you introduced sanctions against us.\u201d This is just amazing!<\/i><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">He refers there to \u201cthe Kiev authorities,\u201d instead of to the Washington authorities, because he knows that the Europeans he\u2019s addressing are aware that Ukraine is now a vassal-nation of the U.S. He knows that they know what he knows, on this. Then, he really does address, not the rulers of Ukraine, but instead the people of Ukraine, when he says:<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\"><i>I believe that it is becoming obvious and most importantly, it is becoming obvious to the overwhelming majority of Ukrainian citizens. We like Ukraine and I really regard the Ukrainian people as a brotherly nation if not just one nation, part of the Russian nation.<\/i><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\"><i>Even though Russian nationalists do not like this and Ukrainian nationalists do not like this either, this is my position, my point of view. Sooner or later, it will happen \u2013 reunification, not on an interstate level but in terms of restoring our relations.<\/i><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Numerous polls have shown that many Ukrainians do feel \u201cbrotherly\u201d toward Russians; he is trying to appeal to these people, to seek a restoration of that previous alliance: Russia with Ukraine\u2019s <i>anti<\/i>-nazis, instead of America with Ukraine\u2019s <i>pro<\/i>-nazis.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">The pro-NATO Asle Toje could have interjected a retort to what Putin was saying, but kept entirely quiet, perhaps because he knew that if he objected to any of what Putin said there, then Putin would have had a terrific opportunity to respond by hinting at the real role that NATO (i.e., the U.S.) was playing in Ukraine, the nazi role there, such as by perhaps alluding to the nazi American Victoria Nuland\u2019s famous \u201cF\u2014k the EU!\u201d statement, which she said when she gave the instruction, on 4 February 2014, for the next <a href=\"http:\/\/peoplesworld.org\/ukrainian-ultra-rightists-given-major-cabinet-posts-in-government\/\"><span class=\"s2\">Government of Ukraine to be led<\/span><\/a> by Ukraine\u2019s <a href=\"http:\/\/rinf.com\/alt-news\/editorials\/obamas-ukrainian-stooges\/\"><span class=\"s2\">rabidly anti-Russian nazis<\/span><\/a>.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Hamid Karzai, the former ruler of Afghanistan (or at least of Kabul), was also one of the participants at this conference, and he spoke about his country\u2019s long history of being a pawn in the ancient aristocratic \u201cGreat Game\u201d of aristocracies waging wars of conquest in order to establish international empires and grab lands from each other. Then, he commented specifically about the role that America\u2019s seizure of Ukraine in 2014 had played in the latest stage of the Great Game:<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\"><i>On\u00a0Ukraine and\u00a0the\u00a0conflict phase there, I\u00a0was, uh, it was during my\u00a0last years of\u00a0government when this crisis emerged in\u00a0Ukraine. I\u00a0and\u00a0my\u00a0close colleagues in\u00a0my\u00a0government and\u00a0foreign policy and\u00a0security issues convened, and\u00a0we met. I\u00a0told them that Ukraine was part of\u00a0the\u00a0Soviet Union, and\u00a0after the\u00a0collapse of\u00a0the\u00a0Soviet Union and\u00a0the\u00a0emergence of\u00a0the\u00a0independent states, Ukraine was one of\u00a0the\u00a0closest countries to\u00a0Russia, in\u00a0ethnic relations and\u00a0economic relations, and\u00a0in\u00a0cultural relations, and\u00a0in\u00a0terms of\u00a0the\u00a0value that Ukraine holds for\u00a0Russia. So my\u00a0approach was one of\u00a0sentiment and\u00a0sensitivity, but, keeping the\u00a0Russian sentiment in\u00a0mind, keeping the\u00a0Russian sensitivity in\u00a0this region in\u00a0mind. Look at\u00a0it this way: if Russia went and\u00a0tried to\u00a0turn Canada into an\u00a0ally of\u00a0the\u00a0Warsaw Pact against America, what would America do? They would act more aggressively than what Russia did. On\u00a0Crimea: to\u00a0the\u00a0extent that I\u00a0understand, Crimea was given to\u00a0Ukraine in\u00a01957, is that true? 1954. So it was part of\u00a0Russian territory. <\/i><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">His point about \u201cif Russia went and\u00a0tried to\u00a0turn Canada into an\u00a0ally of\u00a0the\u00a0Warsaw Pact against America, what would America do?\u201d was merely rhetorical, because in the 1962 Cuban Missile Crisis, the U.S. already had shown what the U.S. would do if Russia were to place missiles on or near America\u2019s borders: the U.S. would launch a nuclear war against Russia. For some reason, Americans felt that that response \u2014 threatening World War III \u2014 was justified, by America, then, in 1962, but somehow don\u2019t feel that it would be a justified response, by Russia, now, when the shoe is on the other foot and even more so than it had been back in 1962 (because Ukraine is right <i>on<\/i> Russia\u2019s border). But, of course, it would be justified even more in the present instance, because <a href=\"https:\/\/off-guardian.org\/2017\/01\/02\/americas-secret-planned-conquest-of-russia\/\"><span class=\"s2\">conquest of Russia became, in 2006, America\u2019s all-but-official strategic-policy goal, replacing the former reliance (by both sides) upon the strategic-policy peace-maintenance goal, \u201cMutually Assured Destruction\u201d (or \u201cMAD\u201d)<\/span><\/a>, which was nuclear weapons being maintained in order to <i>avoid<\/i> a WW III, instead of to \u2018<i>win<\/i>\u2019 a WW III (such as it has been for the U.S. ever since 2006). Russia still believes in MAD, but America is now \u2018going for the gold\u2019, of \u2018victory\u2019. This was implicitly the U.S. and NATO policy <a href=\"http:\/\/www.washingtonsblog.com\/2015\/09\/how-america-double-crossed-russia-and-shamed-the-west.html\"><span class=\"s2\">ever since 24 February 1990<\/span><\/a>, but it became, since 2006, <i>overtly<\/i> the U.S. and NATO objective, called \u201cNuclear Primacy,\u201d meaning the ability of the U.S. to <i>win<\/i> a nuclear conflict against Russia \u2014 to conquer Russia.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">The recent (October 19th) statement by Putin was the most extensive that he has yet presented on the Ukrainian matter, but it\u2019s not the only statement he has made on this subject:<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">A year earlier than this latest Valdi discussion, Putin had said, <a href=\"http:\/\/kremlin.ru\/events\/president\/news\/53077\"><span class=\"s2\">on 12 October 2016<\/span><\/a>, at the 8th annual investment forum VTB Capital &#8220;Russia is Calling!\u201d seeking foreign investments in Russia:<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\"><i>You have just mentioned the crisis in Ukraine. But we did not bring this to a coup in Ukraine. Have we done this? No. Especially our American partners do not hide that to a large extent they stood behind this, funded a radical opposition, brought to an unconstitutional way of changing power, although it could be done quite differently. Former President Yanukovych signed all the requirements and was ready to hold early elections. Instead, they contributed to a coup d&#8217;\u00e9tat. What for?<\/i><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\"><i>And when we are forced to emphasize this, we were compelled to protect the Russian-speaking population in the Donbass, were compelled to respond to the aspirations of people living in the Crimea, to return to the Russian Federation, and immediately began to untwist a new flywheel of anti-Russian policy and the imposition of sanctions.<\/i><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\"><i>You have just said about the Minsk agreements. But we are not sabotaging them, the implementation of the Minsk agreements.<\/i> <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">On that occasion, because he was responding then to a question which had been raised by Rick Boucher, a former member of the US Congress, and now a partner in a law firm, Putin had been more direct, by his saying, \u201cWe did not bring this to a coup in Ukraine. Have we done this? No. Especially our American partners do not hide that to a large extent they stood behind this, funded a radical opposition, brought to an unconstitutional way of changing power.\u201d But he was ambiguous as regards whether America simply \u201cstood behind this,\u201d or instead actually \u201cbrought [the situation in Ukraine] to an unconstitutional way of changing power [i.e., to a coup there].\u201d In any case, Boucher, too, had no response recorded there, to Putin\u2019s statement.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Vagueness in political speech is the norm; it\u2019s seen everywhere; and wherever it is encountered, tactical reasons are commonly being exemplified. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Still earlier, on 23 May 2014, just a few months after America\u2019s coup, Putin took part in the plenary session of the 18th St Petersburg International Economic Forum, <a href=\"http:\/\/en.kremlin.ru\/events\/president\/news\/21080\"><span class=\"s2\">and said<\/span><\/a> in response to a question from CNBC\u2019s Geoff Cutmore:<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\"><i>President Yanukovych decided to postpone the signing and hold additional talks. What came next? A coup d\u2019\u00e9tat. No matter what you choose to call it, a revolution or something else. It\u2019s a coup d\u2019\u00e9tat with the use of violence and militant forces. Who\u2032s on whose side now? Who is using which tools from the past or the future?<\/i><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\"><i>It\u2032s imperative to be very careful with regard to public institutions of emerging nations because if you are not things may slide into chaos, which is exactly what happened in Ukraine. The civil war and chaos are there already. Who benefits from it? Why would they do it, if Yanukovych agreed to everything? They had to go to the voting stations instead, and the same people would be in power now, only legally. We, like idiots, would be paying them the $15 billion that we promised, keeping gas prices low for them and continuing to subsidise their economy\u2026<\/i><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\"><i>Let&#8217;s face it. We are all adults here, right? Intelligent and educated people. The West supported the unconstitutional coup d\u2019\u00e9tat. It did in fact, didn\u2032t it? Not only by way of the infamous cakes, but through informational and political support and what not. Why did it do so?<\/i><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\"><i>All right. And now you think that it\u2032s all our fault? We proposed a dialogue and were denied it. What&#8217;s next? The last time I was in Brussels we agreed to keep this dialogue alive. That was before the coup. Mr Ulyukayev (he is sitting there across from me), a man of respect, speaks decent English, has absolutely market-driven brains, one of our top specialists in the economy, went for consultations. Ask him about it after the session is over. I won\u2032t dwell on it now. But there were no consultations. Nothing but slogans.<\/i><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\"><i>What&#8217;s next? They made a coup and don\u2032t want to speak with us. What are we supposed to think? The next step will take Ukraine into NATO. They never ask us about our opinion, and we have found out over the past two decades that there\u2032s never any dialogue on this issue. All that they ever tell us is, \u2033It\u2032s none of your business, none of your concern.\u2033 We tell them, \u2033A military infrastructure is approaching our borders.\u2033 \u2033Don\u2032t worry, it&#8217;s not aimed against you.\u2033 So, tomorrow Ukraine may end up being a NATO member, and the next thing you know, it will have a US missile defence complex stationed on its territory. No one ever talks to us on this subject, either. They just tell us, \u2033It\u2032s not against you, and it\u2032s none of your concern.\u2033 \u2026<\/i><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\"><i>if we did not do what we did in Crimea, Crimea would have it much worse than Odessa where people were burned alive. And there are no explanations, no real condemnations by anyone. It\u2032s still not even clear who did it, I mean the tragedy in Odessa.<\/i><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">He said this, against \u201cThe West,\u201d after the clear evidence that it had actually been the U.S. regime that did the coup, and that had hired local Ukrainian nazis to carry it out, was already public knowledge, <i>outside<\/i> \u201cThe West.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">On the front page of the <i>New York Times<\/i> on 23 October 2017 was a news-report about the efforts by Republicans in the U.S. Congress to focus on something else than the alleged Russiagate manipulation of the 2016 U.S. election, and about the efforts by congressional Democrats to focus only on those allegations, and this front-page <i>NYT<\/i> story casually employed the phrase <a href=\"http:\/\/archive.is\/F7qZt\"><span class=\"s2\">\u201cthe extraordinary efforts of a hostile power to disrupt American democracy\u201d<\/span><\/a>, as if that were already a proven fact, instead of being the Democratic Party\u2019s incessant propaganda-line in order to \u2018explain\u2019 Hillary Clinton\u2019s electoral defeat. The U.S. propaganda-media do things such as that, in order to whip up, to the maximum, their audience\u2019s hatred of Russians, and especially of the Russian Government, and so to promote the \u2018case\u2019 for war against Russia. Putin knows what the source of this march toward World War III is, and that it\u2019s <i>not<\/i> in Europe. He knows that they\u2019ve had more than their fills of wars, but that Americans are more malleable on this matter, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.washingtonsblog.com\/2017\/09\/americas-corrupt-government-wastes-taxpayers-money.html\"><span class=\"s2\">more controlled by the aristocracy who own the nation\u2019s \u201cmilitary-industrial complex.\u201d<\/span><\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">And the same controlling owners own America\u2019s \u2018news\u2019media and the mega-corporations that advertise in them. Thus, I headlined on October 29th, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.washingtonsblog.com\/2017\/10\/russia-produce-fake-news-america.html\"><span class=\"s2\">\u201cDoes Russia Produce \u2018Fake News\u2019? Or Does America? Or Both?\u201d<\/span><\/a> and opened: <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p3\"><span class=\"s1\"><i>The biggest difference between American and Russian news-reporting has been a simple factual issue between the two sides, on what incident started the \u2018New Cold War\u2019 between the U.S. and Russia. (The original Cold War was between the U.S. and the Soviet Union and had an ideological, capitalist-versus-communist, alleged basis, but this one doesn\u2019t \u2014 so, it\u2019s not really a \u2018New Cold War\u2019; it is quite different, but it might be even more deadly.) <\/i><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s4\"><i>The U.S. and its allies say that what started it was <\/i><b><i>in March 2014<\/i><\/b><i> when <\/i><a href=\"https:\/\/obamawhitehouse.archives.gov\/the-press-office\/2014\/03\/26\/remarks-president-address-european-youth\"><span class=\"s5\"><i>\u201cRussia\u2019s invasion of Ukraine\u201d and \u201cthe invasion of Crimea\u201d<\/i><\/span><\/a><i> and Russia\u2019s <\/i><a href=\"http:\/\/rinf.com\/alt-news\/featured\/entire-case-sanctions-russia-pure-lies\/\"><span class=\"s5\"><i>\u201cconquest of land\u201d<\/i><\/span><\/a><i> by means of that \u201cinvasion,\u201d sparked America\u2019s sanctions against Russia and NATO\u2019s military buildup along Russia\u2019s borders; but Russia says that what started it was <\/i><b><i>in February 2014<\/i><\/b><i> when Ukraine was victimized, as <\/i><a href=\"https:\/\/www.rt.com\/op-edge\/mercenaries-at-maidan-ukraine-558\/\"><span class=\"s5\"><i>Russian Television reported it, on 13 March 2014<\/i><\/span><\/a><i>, by: \u201can armed coup \u2026\u201d<\/i><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">That\u2019s the big issue (which is discussed at length in <a href=\"http:\/\/www.washingtonsblog.com\/2017\/10\/russia-produce-fake-news-america.html\"><span class=\"s2\">that article<\/span><\/a>), and the U.S. regime\u2019s \u2018news\u2019media refuse to allow America\u2019s <a href=\"https:\/\/represent.us\/action\/theproblem-3\/\"><span class=\"s2\">subjects<\/span><\/a> (officially called \u2018citizens\u2019) to know about it, because the regime is now built on the lie that what had happened in Ukraine in February 2014 was a \u2018revolution\u2019 instead of a coup. The America that <a href=\"http:\/\/www.washingtonsblog.com\/2014\/06\/indications-u-s-planning-nuclear-attack-russia.html\"><span class=\"s2\">now is preparing to invade Russia<\/span><\/a> is built on that lie. The military-industrial complex, which is essentially the same as the megabanks and the \u2018news\u2019media, can\u2019t conquer Russia without relying upon that lie as the basis for public acceptance of their operation \u2014 which would <a href=\"http:\/\/www.washingtonsblog.com\/2017\/05\/americas-top-scientists-confirm-u-s-goal-now-conquer-russia.html\"><span class=\"s2\">destroy the planet, if it \u2018succeeds\u2019.<\/span><\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p5\"><span class=\"s6\">Investigative historian Eric Zuesse is the author, most recently, of\u00a0 <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Theyre-Not-Even-Close-Democratic\/dp\/1880026090\/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1339027537&amp;sr=8-9\"><span class=\"s7\"><i>They\u2019re Not Even Close: The Democratic vs. Republican Economic Records, 1910-2010<\/i><\/span><\/a><i>,<\/i> and of<\/span><span class=\"s8\"> <i>\u00a0<\/i><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/dp\/B007Q1H4EG\"><span class=\"s7\"><i>CHRIST\u2019S VENTRILOQUISTS: The Event that Created Christianity<\/i><\/span><\/a><\/span><span class=\"s6\">.<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Eric Zuesse, originally posted at strategic-culture.org A NATO supporter criticized Russia\u2019s President Vladimir Putin for Russia\u2019s Ukraine policy, on October 19th, at the Valdai Discussion Club\u2019s annual meeting in Sochi, and Putin fired back with his most detailed statement to-date, describing the overthrow in February 2014 of Ukraine\u2019s democratically elected President Viktor Yanukovych, as having [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1254,"featured_media":332789,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[519],"tags":[115,30,96,3604,524,523,49,1024],"class_list":{"0":"post-332787","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-newswire","8":"tag-barack-obama","9":"tag-big-brother","10":"tag-cover-up","11":"tag-donald-trump","12":"tag-russia","13":"tag-ukraine","14":"tag-usa-news","15":"tag-ww3"},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/rinf.com\/alt-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/332787","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/rinf.com\/alt-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/rinf.com\/alt-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/rinf.com\/alt-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1254"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/rinf.com\/alt-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=332787"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"http:\/\/rinf.com\/alt-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/332787\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/rinf.com\/alt-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/332789"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/rinf.com\/alt-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=332787"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/rinf.com\/alt-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=332787"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/rinf.com\/alt-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=332787"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}