{"id":30218,"date":"2013-03-16T19:49:00","date_gmt":"2013-03-16T18:49:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/feeds.feedblitz.com\/~\/39106929\/0\/alternet~Why-Does-Anyone-Still-Take-Paul-Ryan-Seriously"},"modified":"2013-03-16T19:49:00","modified_gmt":"2013-03-16T18:49:00","slug":"why-does-anyone-still-take-paul-ryan-seriously","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/rinf.com\/alt-news\/breaking-news\/why-does-anyone-still-take-paul-ryan-seriously\/","title":{"rendered":"Why Does Anyone Still Take Paul Ryan Seriously?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>His failed V.P. bid may have made him a national figure, but his budget plan is hopelessly out of touch.<\/p>\n<div>\n<div class=\"story_images\">\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" typeof=\"foaf:Image\" src=\"http:\/\/www.alternet.org\/files\/styles\/story_image\/public\/story_images\/ryan4vvs_0_0.jpg\"\/><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><em><span class=\"field field-name-field-date field-type-date field-label-hidden field-items field-item even date-display-single\">March 16, 2013<\/span><\/em> \u00a0| \u00a0<\/p>\n<div class=\"article_insert_container c2\">\n<div class=\"block block-altsubscription first odd count-1 content\" id=\"insert_ilikethis\">\n<p>Like this article?<\/p>\n<p>Join our email list:<\/p>\n<h3>Stay up to date with the latest headlines via email.<\/h3>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><span class=\"c3\">Zipping across the land with a nice internet connection, so a good time to reflect a bit (looking down on clouds from above broadens the perspective a bit, I find).<\/span><\/p>\n<p>So, I\u2019m doing a radio interview last night, and moderately impressed with myself for being able to speak coherently about four different budgets: Ryan\u2019s, Senate\u2019s, POTUS (not out yet, but we can guess at the mix), and the <a href=\"http:\/\/redirect.viglink.com\/?key=11fe087258b6fc0532a5ccfc924805c0&#038;u=http%3A%2F%2Fjaredbernsteinblog.com%2Famidst-the-madness-lets-not-overlook-the-cdcs-budget%2F\">CPC<\/a>. Then I got asked a question which threw me a bit: why are Paul Ryan and his budget taken so seriously?<\/p>\n<p>It wasn\u2019t a snarky question. It\u2019s just that I\u2019d been discussing the absolute non-reality of his proposal\u2013how the numbers don\u2019t begin to add up, the unrealistic budget cuts, the plethora of magic asterisks in the absence of actual proposals (the most egregious of which is: I\u2019ll cuts taxes by $6-7 trillion over the next decade and offset the revenue losses with\u2026um\u2026sorry, gotta run). And the interviewer was like, \u201cOK\u2026but if you\u2019re right, why is his budget front page news such that he\u2019s driving the debate?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Here\u2019s what I think is going on. First, institutional reasons. His party holds the majority and he\u2019s the chair of the House Budget Committee. That in itself makes his budget newsworthy. Also, as a former VP candidate, he\u2019s a national figure.<\/p>\n<p>But that\u2019s not the main reason.<\/p>\n<p>I asked a wise, intently non-partisan friend who thought, and he admitted he was being generous, that one reason might be that Ryan\u2019s introduced an important theme into the discussion: if you want really low taxes, you\u2019ve got to give up Medicare as we know it.<\/p>\n<p>But while that may be in there somewhere, it\u2019s awfully muddled. It certainly wasn\u2019t Ryan\u2019s position in the election, where he and Mitt attacked the President for Medicare cuts. And his voucher program doesn\u2019t start for ten years.<\/p>\n<p>In other words, I think my friend is being\u00a0too\u00a0generous. I\u2019ve argued that we actually need our politicians to articulate this point: if\u00a0we want X, we\u2019re going to have to pay for X. To my ears, Paul Ryan actually fits squarely in the problematic camp on this point, telling folks they can painlessly have it all. But in his version, it takes the form of trickle down: if we cut taxes on job creators, get rid of the safety net, and inject health care delivery with competition, then we can have it all for a fraction of what we\u2019re paying now.<\/p>\n<div data-toggle-group=\"story-13242831\">\n<p>That\u2019s very different that telling the electorate straight up that if we want what we say we want\u2013social insurance, a strong safety net, productive public goods including education\u2013we\u2019re going to need to raise more revenues to pay for it.<\/p>\n<p>So what is the answer? \u00a0I think it\u2019s twofold.<\/p>\n<p>First, his views, positions, and rhetoric mesh very neatly with those of influential people, and those people have helped convince the media that Ryan is saying important things. One group of those people are, of course, the fix-the-debt-shrink-the-government-fell-the-pain coalition. Neither the numbers (the actual fiscal record or trajectory) nor the economics support their views, but they\u2019ve been extremely effective in driving the debate.<\/p>\n<p>The other group\u2013and yes, there\u2019s tons of overlap\u2013are those who benefit most from tax reductions on the wealthy, and remember, many of these folks are professional investors. When they invest in Congress, they expect a big bang for their big bucks.<\/p>\n<p>All pretty depressing so far, I know. But the second part of the answer is hopeful, and comes from the hoary old adage that you really can\u2019t fool all the people all the time.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/pixel.quantserve.com\/pixel\/p-89EKCgBk8MZdE.gif\" border=\"0\" height=\"1\" width=\"1\" \/><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>His failed V.P. bid may have made him a national figure, but his budget plan is hopelessly out of touch.<\/p>\n<div>\n<div>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" typeof=\"foaf:Image\" src=\"http:\/\/www.alternet.org\/files\/styles\/story_image\/public\/story_images\/ryan4vvs_0_0.jpg\"\/><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><em><span>March 16, 2013<\/span><\/em> &nbsp;| &nbsp;<\/p>\n<div>\n<div>\n<p>Like this article?<\/p>\n<p>Join our email list:<\/p>\n<h3>Stay up to date with the latest headlines via email.<\/h3>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><span>Zipping across the land with a nice internet connection, so a good time to reflect a bit (looking down on clouds from above broadens the perspective a bit, I find).<\/span><\/p>\n<p>So, I&rsquo;m doing a radio interview last night, and moderately impressed with myself for being able to speak coherently about four different budgets: Ryan&rsquo;s, Senate&rsquo;s, POTUS (not out yet, but we can guess at the mix), and the&nbsp; <a href=\"http:\/\/redirect.viglink.com\/?key=11fe087258b6fc0532a5ccfc924805c0&amp;u=http%3A%2F%2Fjaredbernsteinblog.com%2Famidst-the-madness-lets-not-overlook-the-cdcs-budget%2F\">CPC<\/a>.&nbsp; Then I got asked a question which threw me a bit: why are Paul Ryan and his budget taken so seriously?<\/p>\n<p>It wasn&rsquo;t a snarky question.&nbsp; It&rsquo;s just that I&rsquo;d been discussing the absolute non-reality of his proposal&mdash;how the numbers don&rsquo;t begin to add up, the unrealistic budget cuts, the plethora of magic asterisks in the absence of actual proposals (the most egregious of which is: I&rsquo;ll cuts taxes by $6-7 trillion over the next decade and offset the revenue losses with&hellip;um&hellip;sorry, gotta run).&nbsp; And the interviewer was like, &ldquo;OK&hellip;but if you&rsquo;re right, why is his budget front page news such that he&rsquo;s driving the debate?&rdquo;<\/p>\n<p>Here&rsquo;s what I think is going on.&nbsp; First, institutional reasons.&nbsp; His party holds the majority and he&rsquo;s the chair of the House Budget Committee.&nbsp; That in itself makes his budget newsworthy.&nbsp; Also, as a former VP candidate, he&rsquo;s a national figure.<\/p>\n<p>But that&rsquo;s not the main reason.<\/p>\n<p>I asked a wise, intently non-partisan friend who thought, and he admitted he was being generous, that one reason might be that Ryan&rsquo;s introduced an important theme into the discussion: if you want really low taxes, you&rsquo;ve got to give up Medicare as we know it.<\/p>\n<p>But while that may be in there somewhere, it&rsquo;s awfully muddled.&nbsp; It certainly wasn&rsquo;t Ryan&rsquo;s position in the election, where he and Mitt attacked the President for Medicare cuts.&nbsp; And his voucher program doesn&rsquo;t start for ten years.<\/p>\n<p>In other words, I think my friend is being&nbsp;too&nbsp;generous.&nbsp; I&rsquo;ve argued that we actually need our politicians to articulate this point: if&nbsp;we want X, we&rsquo;re going to have to pay for X.&nbsp; To my ears, Paul Ryan actually fits squarely in the problematic camp on this point, telling folks they can painlessly have it all.&nbsp; But in his version, it takes the form of trickle down: if we cut taxes on job creators, get rid of the safety net, and inject health care delivery with competition, then we can have it all for a fraction of what we&rsquo;re paying now.<\/p>\n<div data-toggle-group=\"story-13242831\">\n<p>That&rsquo;s very different that telling the electorate straight up that if we want what we say we want&mdash;social insurance, a strong safety net, productive public goods including education&mdash;we&rsquo;re going to need to raise more revenues to pay for it.<\/p>\n<p>So what is the answer? &nbsp;I think it&rsquo;s twofold.<\/p>\n<p>First, his views, positions, and rhetoric mesh very neatly with those of influential people, and those people have helped convince the media that Ryan is saying important things.&nbsp; One group of those people are, of course, the fix-the-debt-shrink-the-government-fell-the-pain coalition.&nbsp; Neither the numbers (the actual fiscal record or trajectory) nor the economics support their views, but they&rsquo;ve been extremely effective in driving the debate.<\/p>\n<p>The other group&mdash;and yes, there&rsquo;s tons of overlap&mdash;are those who benefit most from tax reductions on the wealthy, and remember, many of these folks are professional investors.&nbsp; When they invest in Congress, they expect a big bang for their big bucks.<\/p>\n<p>All pretty depressing so far, I know.&nbsp; But the second part of the answer is hopeful, and comes from the hoary old adage that you really can&rsquo;t fool all the people all the time.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/pixel.quantserve.com\/pixel\/p-89EKCgBk8MZdE.gif\" border=\"0\" height=\"1\" width=\"1\"\/><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1213,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[487],"tags":[],"class_list":{"0":"post-30218","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","6":"category-breaking-news"},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/rinf.com\/alt-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/30218","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/rinf.com\/alt-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/rinf.com\/alt-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/rinf.com\/alt-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1213"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/rinf.com\/alt-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=30218"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"http:\/\/rinf.com\/alt-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/30218\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/rinf.com\/alt-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=30218"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/rinf.com\/alt-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=30218"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/rinf.com\/alt-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=30218"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}