{"id":291359,"date":"2017-01-23T21:54:04","date_gmt":"2017-01-23T20:54:04","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/rinf.com\/alt-news\/newswire\/should-we-punch-nazis-in-the-head\/"},"modified":"2017-01-23T21:54:04","modified_gmt":"2017-01-23T20:54:04","slug":"should-we-punch-nazis-in-the-head","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/rinf.com\/alt-news\/newswire\/should-we-punch-nazis-in-the-head\/","title":{"rendered":"Should We Punch Nazis in the Head?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/01\/nazi.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/01\/nazi.jpg\" alt=\"nazi\" width=\"300\" height=\"223\" class=\"alignright size-full wp-image-28239\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>No, we should not.<\/p>\n<p>Condoning, applauding or giggling over the idea of punching people in the head whose political positions, however abhorrent, we don&#8217;t agree with is so wrong I am not even sure why it is necessary to talk about it. However, given the events of this weekend, it seems we have to talk about it.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Is it OK to punch a Nazi for what he said?&#8221; is a question bouncing around the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2017\/01\/21\/us\/politics\/richard-spencer-punched-attack.html?hp&#038;action=click&#038;pgtype=Homepage&#038;clickSource=story-heading&#038;module=span-ab-lede-package-region&#038;region=top-news&#038;WT.nav=top-news&#038;_r=0\">media<\/a> and the Internet after an attack on Richard Spencer following the Trump inauguration. Spencer created the term alt-right. On video, he was explaining the meaning of Pepe the Frog, a silly cartoon figure somehow adopted as a mascot by the racist, far-right fringe movement Spencer promotes as anti-immigrant, anti-Semitic and anti-feminist.<\/p>\n<p><span id=\"more-28237\"><\/span><\/p>\n<p>The punch was captured on video:<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p>There are over 4,500 comments on YouTube alone, and most condone the punch. The most popular format is to say &#8220;I don&#8217;t condone violence <em>BUT<\/em>&#8230;&#8221; and then go on to condone violence. Another popular comment is to mention Hitler, WWII and the defeat of the Nazis, and somehow see the video as a part of that 70-year-old global struggle fought between nation states.<\/p>\n<p>The main thrust of commentary is that violence is now justified as a response to speech by the right some do not care for. More than a few people have suggested punching someone in the head is in fact a form of protected free speech itself, and others seem to think whatever they label as &#8220;hate speech&#8221; is a crime. Others mouth stuff along the lines of &#8220;the end justifies the means.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>A popular meme is to put different songs, many calling for violence themselves, behind the punching video. Jon Favreau, a former speechwriter for Barack Obama, <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/jonfavs\/status\/822681455872512000?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">tweeted<\/a> &#8220;I don&#8217;t care how many different songs you set Richard Spencer being punched to, I&#8217;ll laugh at every one.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Where to begin?<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> If violence against those exercising their First Amendment rights (speech, religion, etc.) can ever be condoned, why wouldn&#8217;t that also condone tearing off a woman&#8217;s hijab, or lynching someone? See how the &#8220;violence is justified&#8221; argument can work?<\/li>\n<li>There are no laws against hate speech. Details <a href=\"http:\/\/wemeantwell.com\/blog\/2016\/12\/30\/ban-trump-twitter-and-free-speech\/\">here<\/a>.<\/li>\n<li>Punching people is not a form of protected speech. Expressed legally in a number of ways, Supreme Court Judge Oliver Wendell Holmes <a href=\"http:\/\/Oliver Wendell Holmes\">stated<\/a> &#8220;The right to swing my fist ends where the other man&#8217;s nose begins.&#8221;<\/li>\n<li>Free speech protection covers all the things people want to say, from the furthest left to the furthest right. You can burn a flag, display a nude body, fill a fish tank with urine and call it art, put on a KKK uniform and march past a Black church, and say whatever Richard Spencer was saying. It means I can write this article.<\/li>\n<li>The First Amendment and the broader traditions of free speech are there to protect the most challenging awful mean terrible hateful racist sexist anti-American garbage people can spew out. The protections are not there to cover the easy stuff most people agree with (though they do.) That is the whole point.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>It saddens me greatly to see even one&#8230;<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/feedproxy.google.com\/~r\/AWCBlog\/~3\/MHSC2M5YfGE\/\">Read more<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>No, we should not. Condoning, applauding or giggling over the idea of punching people in the head whose political positions, however abhorrent, we don&#8217;t agree with is so wrong I am not even sure why it is necessary to talk about it. 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