{"id":273070,"date":"2016-10-15T04:40:40","date_gmt":"2016-10-15T04:40:40","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/rinf.com\/alt-news\/?p=273070"},"modified":"2016-10-15T06:56:01","modified_gmt":"2016-10-15T06:56:01","slug":"president-obama-threatens-president-putin-nuclear-war","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/rinf.com\/alt-news\/breaking-news\/president-obama-threatens-president-putin-nuclear-war\/","title":{"rendered":"President Obama Threatens President Putin with Nuclear War"},"content":{"rendered":"

Eric Zuesse<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n

\u201cIt\u2019ll be at a time of our choosing,\u201d says U.S. Vice President Joe Biden, on NBC\u2019\u2019s \u201cMeet the Press,\u201d to be aired on Sunday, October 16th.<\/span><\/p>\n

Interviewer Chuck Todd had asked him, \u201cWhy would he [Obama] send a message out to Putin?\u201d Biden pursed his lips, paused, and said, with a grim look on his face, \u201cWe sent him the message.\u201d Of course that didn\u2019t answer Todd\u2019s question, which was \u201cWhy?” Biden and Todd both remained silent for another tense moment. Then, Biden picked up again: \u201cWe have the capacity to do it, and, uh,\u201d and Todd interrupted him there with \u201cHe\u2019ll know it?\u201d Biden replied: \u201cHe\u2019ll know it, and it\u2019ll be at a time of our choosing, and under circumstances that have the greatest impact. Uh, the capacity to do, to fundamentally alter the election, is not what people think; and, uh, I tell you what: to the extent that they do [\u2018do\u2019 presumably meaning: fundamentally alter the election], we will be proportionate in what we do. And, uh,\u201d Todd again interrupted his interviewee, and said, \u201cSo, a message is going to be sent. Will the public know?\u201d Biden replied, \u201cHope not.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n

Of course, that \u201cHope not\u201d could mean many things. It might mean: A blitz nuclear attack in line with our government\u2019s belief that we now enjoy\u00a0Nuclear Primacy<\/span><\/a>\u00a0(an idea that was first\u00a0published by the Council on Foreign Relations<\/span><\/a>\u00a0in 2006, and which has never yet been renounced by the U.S. government, during the decade since). That would be very much a public response, which Biden would \u201chope not\u201d to be \u2019necessary’. In other words: Biden might have meant, there: “I hope it won\u2019t have to be that.\u201d But, clearly, Biden isn\u2019t wanting the public to understand anything, other than that President Obama has threatened President Putin, with something, and that it will be \u201cproportionate,\u201d and the excuse for it will be \u2014 if it will happen \u2014 that Putin had done something which Obama thinks caused Hillary Clinton to lose the election to Donald Trump.<\/span><\/p>\n

Standing behind what Biden is saying there, is the belief that Putin does<\/i> have in his possession some option that might \u201cfundamentally alter the election.\u201d This is clearly a threat that\u2019s meant to deter Putin from doing something that Putin hasn\u2019t yet done. Obama is telling Putin that either the winner will be the person he wants to be his successor, or else \u2014 or else what<\/i>?<\/span><\/p>\n

In other words: what Biden is saying, is that, if Trump wins this election, then there is going to be some sudden, unannounced, U.S. government response against Putin, and that only after it is over, will the U.S. government explain to the public why it did what it did.<\/span><\/p>\n

But, of course, that assumes Americans will still be alive, even if Russians are not; and, so, if the \u201cproportionate\u201d response turns out to be a blitz nuclear attack against Russia, then anyone who is still alive will be wondering: what was it \u2018proportionate\u2019 to?<\/span><\/p>\n

The United States is no longer \u2014 at least not in Syria \u2014 actually fighting the thing that Trump calls \u201cextremist Islamic terrorism\u201d: we are instead arming Al Qaeda in Syria to overthrow and replace Putin\u2019s ally, Bashar al-Assad, there<\/span><\/a>. All of the U.S. government\u2019s talk against \u201cISIL\u201d (the Sauds\u2019 preferred acronym for \u201cISIS\u201d) is mere distraction from the tens of thousands of other jihadist fighters from other jihadist groups that have also been imported by the U.S. and Saudi governments into Syria as Obama\u2019s and the Sauds\u2019 \u201cboots on the ground\u201d to overthrow Assad there. The leadership now for all of those jihadist groups (except for ISIS itself) is, in fact, Al Qaeda in Syria, which has gone under the name \u201cal-Nusra.\u201d Nusra is supplying the leadership now to all the jihadist factions that have been sent into Syria; Nusra is the only jihadist group that possesses the long experience and training in jihad and military matters, which is needed in order to be able to overthrow Assad. Al Qaeda is now America\u2019s essential ally, at doing what the U.S. government most wants to do: overthrow and replace Assad.<\/span><\/a> The U.S. is deadly serious about that intention, as can be seen\u00a0here from the NBC News preview video of their interview with Biden<\/span><\/a>, from which the above quotations are sourced. Looking at Biden\u2019s face there, one can see that this is deadly serious.\u00a0This isn\u2019t about sexual aggression \u2014 either Donald Trump\u2019s or Bill Clinton\u2019s \u2014 it\u2019s about the survival of civilization, or else nuclear war.<\/span><\/p>\n

There have been many reports in the U.S. press saying that Obama has, ever since at least October 6th, been contemplating an all-out U.S. bombing campaign to bring down Assad. But that would mean war with Russia, which has been actively bombing Nusra and all the other jihadists in Syria.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

Hillary Clinton is urging a\u00a0\u201cno-fly zone\u201d in Syria<\/span><\/a>, so that we can do to Assad what we did to another ally of Moscow, Muammar Gaddafi. However, when that was done to Gaddafi, Putin stood aside and wasn\u2019t supplying military assistance to Gaddafi, which would have enabled Gaddafi to wipe out the fundamentalist Muslims who were trying to overthrow him. Russia is involved actively, this time, to prevent happening in Syria what happened in Libya. A no-fly zone in Syria would thus mean U.S. war against Russia.<\/span><\/p>\n

These are tense times. Any escalation that the U.S. can do against Russia, can be met by an escalation that Russia can do against the United States.<\/span><\/p>\n

Consequently, whatever escalation Obama is now threatening against Putin, might be met by an escalation on the other side. Where will it stop, or would it even be able<\/i> to stop?<\/span><\/p>\n

Whatever escalation Obama might consider to be \u2018proportionate\u2019, could consequently end up ending the world as we know it \u2014 and not for the better.\u00a0Hillary Clinton has threatened Putin with war<\/span><\/a>; now Barack Obama has done likewise.<\/span><\/p>\n

Whatever Biden\u2019s assignment here actually was from Obama, one thing about it is clear: this President is determined that Hillary Clinton be his successor, and Obama will target anyone who gets in his way if he doesn\u2019t win his way on this. And Obama wants the American public to know that this is how he feels about the matter. <\/span><\/p>\n

This Biden-interview is really intended, in that sense, to be a threat aimed at America\u2019s voters, telling them, telling each one of us: Vote for Hillary Clinton, or else! He\u2019s not telling us what<\/i> that \u201cor else!\u201d is going to be \u2014 and maybe he himself has no accurate<\/i> idea of how far it will ultimately cycle and go. Ultimately, whatever he thinks it would be, might not turn out to be the last step in this cycle of escalation \u2014 unless it\u2019s going to go directly<\/i> to a blitz attack against Russia.<\/span><\/p>\n

Obama is thus coercing us, before he coerces Putin. He\u2019s telling us: If<\/i> we vote against Hillary Clinton \u2014 if she loses this election \u2014 then President Obama has something in mind that we won\u2019t like \u2014 and he won\u2019t wait until the next President is inaugurated on 20 January 2017 to do it, whatever \u2018it\u2019 might be. Obama here is threatenting not only Vladimir Putin, but the American people. Even if Obama truly believes that he alone possesses all the power, he does not, unless he possesses the power to terrorize America\u2019s voters to elect Hillary Clinton, even if we otherwise would not.<\/span><\/p>\n

\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014<\/span><\/p>\n

Investigative historian Eric Zuesse is the author, most recently, of\u00a0 They\u2019re Not Even Close: The Democratic vs. Republican Economic Records, 1910-2010<\/i><\/span><\/a>,<\/i> and of<\/span> \u00a0<\/i>CHRIST\u2019S VENTRILOQUISTS: The Event that Created Christianity<\/i><\/span><\/a>.<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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