{"id":273024,"date":"2016-10-14T23:32:06","date_gmt":"2016-10-14T23:32:06","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/rinf.com\/alt-news\/?p=273024"},"modified":"2016-10-14T23:32:06","modified_gmt":"2016-10-14T23:32:06","slug":"turkey-now-likely-leave-nato-clinton-becomes-president","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/rinf.com\/alt-news\/breaking-news\/turkey-now-likely-leave-nato-clinton-becomes-president\/","title":{"rendered":"Turkey Now Likely to Leave NATO if Clinton Becomes President"},"content":{"rendered":"

Eric Zuesse, originally posted at strategic-culture.org<\/span><\/a><\/span><\/p>\n

Turkey\u2019s two top leaders have both indicated that, if the U.S. Presidential candidate Hillary Clinton becomes elected as the U.S. President on November 8th, then Turkey, which is NATO\u2019s only Muslim-majority member-nation, will have little alternative but to leave NATO and ally itself with Russia, in America\u2019s movement towards war against Russia<\/span><\/a> (which then would mean also war against Turkey).<\/span><\/p>\n

Turkey\u2019s Anadolu News Agency headlined on October 12th,\u00a0\u201cClinton remarks on arming PYD\/PKK unfortunate: Erdogan\u201d<\/span><\/a>, and reported that \u201cPresident Recep Tayyip Erdogan Wednesday criticized U.S. presidential candidate Hillary Clinton’s remarks on arming Syrian Kurds as\u00a0\u2018unfortunate.’\u00a0Clinton said, ‘We will continue to support the PYD and YPG.\u2019 [Those are Kurdish political organizations, and the YPG is openly fighting to produce a Kurdish nation, which would remove valuable land and resources not only from Turkey, but from Syria, and also from Iraq, and maybe also from Iran.] ‘This is a very unfortunate statement,’ Erdogan said.\u201d This assertion by Erdogan followed an even stronger statement by Turkey\u2019s Prime Minister the day before, as follows:<\/span><\/p>\n

The Associated Press reported on Tuesday October 11th, that “Turkish Prime Minister Binali Yildirim on Tuesday criticized U.S. presidential candidate Hillary Clinton for comments suggesting that she would\u00a0consider providing arms to support Kurdish fighters in Syria.\u201d CBS News headlined this AP news-report as\u00a0“Turkey blasts Clinton’s\u00a0Syria proposal: ‘Isn’t\u00a0America our ally?\u2019\u201d<\/span><\/a>\u00a0Military Times<\/i> headlined it\u00a0“Turkey slams Clinton for\u00a0hinting support to Syrian\u00a0Kurds\u201d<\/span><\/a>. The AP described there the severe concerns that Turkey\u2019s government would have in the event Clinton becomes America\u2019s President.<\/span><\/p>\n

To state the matter simply here: Turkey\u2019s leaders are viscerally opposed to Clinton\u2019s repeated support for allowing Kurds to break away and to form their own independent nation, which breakaway would constitute a grave threat to Turkey. A previous pan-Kurdish statement by her was at the Council on Foreign Relations, where she urged (as she often has) that a \u201cno-fly zone\u201d be imposed in Syria, and that \u201cwe\u2019ve got to work with the\u00a0Kurds on both sides of the border, we have got to figure out\u00a0how to, if possible, have a second Arab Awakening\u201d \u2014 and she was saying this on 19 November 2015<\/span><\/a>, after Russia had already begun its bombing campaign in Syria on 30 September 2015 and thus most of the warplanes that were bombing in Syria were Russian ones and America\u2019s imposing a \u201cno-fly zone\u201d would thus mean that the U.S. would be shooting down Russian bombers, which would mean World War III. Furthermore, though she was fond of the \u201cArab Spring\u201d because it had started the jihadists coming into Syria and the war in Syria, which she hoped to win as the U.S. President, most of the people who live in that region aren\u2019t fond of the \u2018Arab Spring\u2019 at all.<\/span><\/p>\n

Apparently, Turkey\u2019s government has already had more than enough of Hillary Clinton.<\/span><\/p>\n

Ever since the Turkish government defeated the military coup-attempt on 15 July 2016 that was aimed at replacing Turkey\u2019s democratically elected leaders with leaders who would adhere to the U.S.-CIA-supported exiled-in-America Fethullah Gulen, the governments in Washington and Ankara have been having extremely strained relations, but Hillary Clinton would be an even worse U.S. President, from Turkey\u2019s standpoint, than Barack Obama is. Obama and Clinton and the Saudi royals want to break up Turkey (and Syria, and Iraq, etc.), but Erdogan and Yildirim don\u2019t.<\/span><\/p>\n

As\u00a0another Anadolu news-report noted on October 12th<\/span><\/a>, “During his speech, the prime minister said the main opposition Republican People’s Party (CHP) ‘is falling for’ the Fetullah Terror Organization\u00a0(FETO)’s claims of being unjustly treated.\u201d The existing leadership of Turkey has made clear that they view the recent coup-attempt as a CIA-initiated operation, and don\u2019t like it. As I had reported earlier, on 18 August 2016, headlining \u201cWhat Was Behind the Turkish Coup-Attempt?\u201d<\/span><\/a> Erdogan and Yildirim not only know the answer to this question \u2014 that the U.S. government was behind it \u2014 but they almost certainly would be dead by now if Russia\u2019s President Vladimir Putin hadn\u2019t informed Erdogan just ahead of the coup, that it was about to happen. (Russian intelligence is very good even if American intelligence \u2014 or else the selective use of it by a traitorous President \u2014 produces results such as the 2003 invasion of Iraq.) So, ever since July 15th, Turkey has greatly increased its defenses against the United States; and Turkey\u2019s leaders understand why creation of a Kurdistan would be terrible for Turkey, as well as for Iraq and Syria; and, that the CIA has wanted it ever since at least 1949. Thus, on July 16th (the day after the Turkish coup), there were \u201cagreements reached, and recent U.S. commitments to\u00a0provide direct military aid and financing of $415 million\u201d which \u201cis further\u00a0evidence of the importance of the Kurds\u201d<\/span><\/a>; and, on July 18th, \u201cUS to Set Up 5 Military Bases in Iraqi Kurdistan Region\u201d<\/span><\/a>. It\u2019s not because the U.S. aristocracy love Kurds, or love the Turkish public, or love the Iraqis, that America\u2019s aristocracy want the existing Turkish government (not just Syria\u2019s) overthrown; it\u2019s all for oil-and-gas operations that America\u2019s billionaires can then take a chunk of, such as by building the pipelines and marketing the oil and gas into Europe.<\/span><\/p>\n

The American public might not know these things, but Turkey\u2019s leaders do, and America\u2019s leaders do, and Russia\u2019s leaders do. And so does Hillary Clinton \u2014 President Obama\u2019s chosen heir. After all: she is the person that America\u2019s current President wants to be his successor. If she doesn\u2019t become his successor, then his entire historical legacy (his service to America\u2019s oligarchs) will be flushed away, and this is especially true with regard to his foreign policy, including isolating Russia and China, including his TPP and TTIP \u2018trade\u2019 treaties for that purpose and for giving control to the international corporations<\/span><\/a>. She is just as determined to conquer Russia and to aid her financial backers as he is. <\/span><\/p>\n

The loss of Turkey in that conquest-effort is a major setback for the U.S. aristocracy.<\/span><\/p>\n

America\u2019s Associated Press headlined on October 10th, \u201cTurkey, Russia Sign Gas Pipeline Deal as Ties Improve\u201d<\/span><\/a>, and opened by saying that those two nations were engaging in \u201cefforts to normalize ties,\u201d and, so: \u201cRussian President Vladimir Putin and Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan watched as their countries’ energy ministers sealed an intergovernmental agreement for the \u2018Turkish Stream\u2019 project that would bring gas from Russia to Turkey. It would then be distributed to European Union nations.\u201d Nothing was said there about the U.S. coup-attempt nor about any of the other relevant background for understanding this, such as its being the beginning of the end of the Obama-phase in the CIA\u2019s effort, ever since 1949<\/span><\/a>, to overthrow the secular Syrian government, in order to install a fundamentalist-Sunni, pro-Saudi (Sharia-law), government in Syria, to enable the Sauds\u2019 oil and the Thanis\u2019 (Qatar\u2019s) gas to be pipelined through Syria into Europe, to replace Russian oil and gas there<\/span><\/a>. <\/span><\/p>\n

If Turkey were to quit NATO, then the entire post-WW-II international order would be reorganized so that the U.S. government would no longer have a stranglehold against other nations. This wouldn\u2019t directly affect the United Nations (FDR\u2019s creation), but it would directly affect practically everything else (it would end Winston Churchill\u2019s creation<\/span><\/a> \u2014 which George Herbert Walker Bush and all subsequent U.S. Presidents kept going until now<\/span><\/a> \u2014 the Cold War). As to why this is happening at the present moment: the only way that the U.S. aristocracy can continue any further to conquer Russia is by turning America\u2019s Cold War into World War III, and some allied aristocracies are refusing to go that far. Turkey is just one example of this refusal, but, until Putin saved Erdogan\u2019s life on July 15th, Turkey was part of Washington\u2019s plan, not another enemy against it.<\/span><\/p>\n

The current U.S. Presidential contest is, more than anything else, about whether to continue the Cold War (which, after 1990, has been a one-sided U.S. war against Russia, no longer a two-sided ideological war<\/i><\/span><\/a>), into\u00a0nuclear war<\/span><\/a>. That\u2019s what it\u2019s really all about<\/span><\/a>, though the American public haven\u2019t yet been informed, except about the small issues and the non-\u2018issues\u2019, which occupy most of the \u2018debates\u2019 in America\u2019s \u2018election\u2019.<\/span><\/p>\n

Almost no reporting is published on the real issues, but the real issues will be the important ones in retrospect, if there will be a retrospect. This isn\u2019t to say that the other issues aren\u2019t also significant, but only that they\u2019re far less important than is the question: WW III \u2014 yes or no. And, furthermore, the published discussions of the lesser issues are highly deceptive, so that the public is voting largely on the basis of falsehoods anyway<\/span><\/a>.<\/span><\/p>\n

On 22 November 2015, the pro-Republican \u201cDaily Caller\u201d website headlined \u201cFollowers Of A Mysterious Turkish Islamic Cleric Have Donated Heavily To Hillary\u2019s Campaign And Family Charity\u201d<\/span><\/a> and reported that, \u201cA former president of the Gulen-linked Turkish Cultural Center, Ozkan\u00a0gave between $500,001 and $1,000,000 to the Clinton Foundation in recent months, the charity\u2019s website shows. He also served as a national finance co-chair last year for a pro-Clinton political action committee called Ready PAC.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n

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Investigative historian Eric Zuesse is the author, most recently, of\u00a0 They\u2019re Not Even Close: The Democratic vs. Republican Economic Records, 1910-2010<\/i><\/span><\/a>,<\/i> and of<\/span> \u00a0<\/i>CHRIST\u2019S VENTRILOQUISTS: The Event that Created Christianity<\/i><\/span><\/a>.<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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