{"id":2286,"date":"2008-01-24T17:58:13","date_gmt":"2008-01-24T17:58:13","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/rinf.com\/alt-news\/911-truth\/911-contradictions\/2286\/"},"modified":"2008-01-24T17:58:13","modified_gmt":"2008-01-24T17:58:13","slug":"911-contradictions","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/rinf.com\/alt-news\/911-truth\/911-contradictions\/","title":{"rendered":"9\/11 Contradictions"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"content\">When Did Cheney Enter the Underground Bunker?<\/p>\n<p class=\"content\">David Ray Griffin<\/p>\n<p class=\"content\">With regard to the morning of 9\/11, everyone agrees that at some time after 9:03 (when the South Tower of the World Trade Center was struck) and before 10:00, Vice President Dick Cheney went down to the Presidential Emergency Operations Center (PEOC), sometimes simply called the \u201cbunker,\u201d under the east wing of the White House. Everyone also agrees that, once there, Cheney was in charge&#8212;that he was either making decisions or relaying decisions from President Bush. But there is enormous disagreement as to exactly when Cheney entered the PEOC.<\/p>\n<p>According to <em>The 9\/11 Commission Report,<\/em> Cheney arrived \u201cshortly before 10:00, perhaps at 9:58\u201d <em>(The 9\/11 Commission Report<\/em> [henceforth 9\/11CR], 40). This official time, however, contradicts almost all previous reports, some of which had him there before 9:20. This difference is important because, if the 9\/11 Commission\u2019s time is correct, Cheney was not in charge in the PEOC when the Pentagon was struck, or for most of the period during which United Flight 93 was approaching Washington. But if the reports that have him there by 9:20 are correct, he <em>was<\/em> in charge in the PEOC all that time.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Mineta\u2019s Report of Cheney\u2019s Early Arrival<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>The most well-known statement contradicting the 9\/11 Commission was made by Secretary of Transportation Norman Mineta during his public testimony to the 9\/11 Commission on May 23, 2003. Saying that he \u201carrived at the PEOC at about 9:20 AM,\u201d Mineta reported that he then overheard part of an ongoing conversation, which had obviously begun before he arrived, between a young man and Vice President Cheney. This conversation was about a plane coming toward Washington and ended with Cheney confirming that \u201cthe orders still stand.\u201d When Commissioner Timothy Roemer later asked Mineta how long after his arrival he overheard this conversation about whether the orders still stood, Mineta replied: \u201cProbably about five or six minutes.\u201d This would mean, Roemer pointed out, \u201cabout 9:25 or 9:26.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>This is a remarkable contradiction. Given the fact that Cheney, according to Mineta, had been engaged in an ongoing exchange, he must have been in the PEOC for several minutes before Mineta\u2019s 9:20 arrival. If Cheney had been there since 9:15, there would be a 43-minute contradiction between Mineta\u2019s testimony and <em>The 9\/11 Commission Report.<\/em> Why would such an enormous contradiction exist?<\/p>\n<p>One possible explanation would be that Mineta was wrong. His story, however, is in line with that of many other witnesses.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Other Reports Supporting Cheney\u2019s Early Arrival<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Richard Clarke reported that he, Cheney, and Condoleezza Rice had a brief meeting shortly after 9:03, following which the Secret Service wanted Cheney and Rice to go down to the PEOC. Rice, however, first went with Clarke to the White House\u2019s Video Teleconferencing Center, where Clarke was to set up a video conference, which began at about 9:10. After spending a few minutes there, Rice said, according to Clarke: \u201cYou\u2019re going to need some decisions quickly. I\u2019m going to the PEOC to be with the Vice President. Tell us what you need.\u201d At about 9:15, Norman Mineta arrived and Clarke \u201csuggested he join the Vice President\u201d <em>(Against All Enemies,<\/em> 2-5). Clarke thereby implied that Cheney was in the PEOC several minutes prior to 9:15.<\/p>\n<p>In an ABC News program on the first anniversary of 9\/11, Cheney\u2019s White House photographer David Bohrer reported that, shortly after 9:00, some Secret Service agents came into Cheney\u2019s office and said, \u201cSir, you have to come with us.\u201d During this same program, Rice said: \u201cAs I was trying to find all of the principals, the Secret Service came in and said, \u2018You have to leave now for the bunker. The Vice President&#8217;s already there. There may be a plane headed for the White House.\u2019\u201d ABC\u2019s Charles Gibson then said: \u201cIn the bunker, the Vice President is joined by Rice and Transportation Secretary Norman Mineta\u201d (\u201c9\/11: Interviews by Peter Jennings,\u201d ABC News, September 11, 2002).<\/p>\n<p><strong>The 9\/11 Commission\u2019s Late-Arrival Claim<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>The 9\/11 Commission agreed that the Vice President was hustled down to the PEOC after word was received that a plane was headed towards the White House. It claimed, however, that this word was not received until 9:33. But even then, according to the Commission, the Secret Service agents immediately received another message, telling them that the aircraft had turned away, so \u201c[n]o move was made to evacuate the Vice President at this time.\u201d It was not until \u201cjust before 9:36\u201d that the Secret Service ordered Cheney to go below (9\/11CR 39). But even after he entered the underground corridor at 9:37, Cheney did not immediately go to the PEOC. Rather:<\/p>\n<table border=\"0\" width=\"100%\" cellPadding=\"0\" cellSpacing=\"0\">\n<tr>\n<td width=\"15%\">\u00a0<\/td>\n<td width=\"85%\" vAlign=\"top\">Once inside, Vice President Cheney and the agents paused in an area of the tunnel that had a secure phone, a bench, and television. The Vice President asked to speak to the President, but it took time for the call to be connected. He learned in the tunnel that the Pentagon had been hit, and he saw television coverage of the smoke coming from the building. (9\/11CR 40)<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<p>Next, after Lynne Cheney \u201cjoined her husband in the tunnel,\u201d the Commission claimed, \u201cMrs. Cheney and the Vice President moved from the tunnel to the shelter conference room\u201d after the call ended, which was not until after 9:55. As for Rice, the Commission added, she \u201centered the conference room shortly after the Vice President\u201d (9\/11CR 40).<\/p>\n<p>The contradiction could not be clearer. According to the Commission, Cheney, far from entering the PEOC before 9:20, as Mineta and others said, did not arrive there until about 9:58, 20 minutes after the 9:38 strike on the Pentagon, about which he had learned in the corridor.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Cheney\u2019s Account on <em>Meet the Press<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>The 9\/11 Commission\u2019s account even contradicted that given by Cheney himself in a well-known interview. Speaking to Tim Russert on NBC\u2019s <em>Meet the Press<\/em> only five days after 9\/11, Cheney said: \u201c[A]fter I talked to the president&#8230; I went down into&#8230; the Presidential Emergency Operations Center&#8230; [W]hen I arrived there within a short order, we had word the Pentagon&#8217;s been hit.\u201d Cheney himself, therefore, indicated that he had entered the PEOC prior to the (9:38) strike on the Pentagon, not 20 minutes after it, as the Commission would later claim.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dealing with the Contradictions<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>How did the 9\/11 Commission deal with the fact that its claim about the time of Cheney\u2019s arrival in the PEOC had been contradicted by Bohrer, Clarke, Mineta, Rice, several news reports, and even Cheney himself? It simply omitted any mention of these contradictory reports.<\/p>\n<p>Of these omissions, the most important was the Commission\u2019s failure to mention Norman Mineta\u2019s testimony, even though it was given to the Commission in an open hearing&#8212;as can be seen by reading the transcript of that session (May 23, 2003). This portion of Mineta\u2019s testimony was also deleted from the official version of the video record of the 9\/11 Commission hearings in the 9\/11 Commission archives. (It can, however, be viewed on the Internet.)<\/p>\n<p>During an interview for the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation in 2006, Hamilton was asked what \u201cMineta told the Commission about where Dick Cheney was prior to 10 AM.\u201d Hamilton replied: \u201cI do not recall\u201d (\u201c9\/11: Truth, Lies and Conspiracy: Interview: Lee Hamilton,\u201d CBC News, 21 August 2006). It was surprising that Hamilton could not recall, because he had been the one doing the questioning when Mineta told the story of the young man\u2019s conversation with Cheney. Hamilton, moreover, had begun his questioning by saying to Mineta: \u201cYou were there [in the PEOC] for a good part of the day. I think you were there with the Vice President.\u201d And Mineta\u2019s exchange with Timothy Roemer, during which it was established that Mineta had arrived at about 9:20, came immediately after Hamilton\u2019s interrogation. And yet Hamilton, not being able to recall any of this, simply said, \u201cwe think that Vice President Cheney entered the bunker shortly before 10 o\u2019clock.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Obliterating Mineta\u2019s Problematic Testimony <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>To see possible motives for the 9\/11 Commission\u2019s efforts to obliterate Mineta\u2019s story from the public record, we need to look at the conversation he reported to the Commission. He said:<\/p>\n<table border=\"0\" width=\"100%\" cellPadding=\"0\" cellSpacing=\"0\">\n<tr>\n<td width=\"15%\">\u00a0<\/td>\n<td width=\"85%\" vAlign=\"top\">During the time that the airplane was coming in to the Pentagon, there was a young man who would come in and say to the Vice President, \u201cThe plane is 50 miles out.\u201d \u201cThe plane is 30 miles out.\u201d And when it got down to \u201cthe plane is 10 miles out,\u201d the young man also said to the Vice President, \u201cDo the orders still stand?\u201d And the Vice President turned and whipped his neck around and said, \u201cOf course the orders still stand. Have you heard anything to the contrary?\u201d<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<p>Mineta\u2019s story had dangerous implications with regard to the strike on the Pentagon, which occurred at 9:38. According to the 9\/11 Commission, the military did not know that an aircraft was approaching the Pentagon until 9:36, so that it \u201chad at most one or two minutes to react to the unidentified plane approaching Washington\u201d (9\/11CR 34). That claim was essential for explaining, among other things, why the Pentagon had not been evacuated before it was struck &#8212; a fact that resulted in 125 deaths. A spokesperson for Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld, when asked why this evacuation had not occurred, said: \u201cThe Pentagon was simply not aware that this aircraft was coming our way\u201d <em>(Newsday,<\/em> Sept. 23, 2001). Mineta\u2019s testimony implied, by contrast, that Cheney and others knew that an aircraft was approaching Washington about 12 minutes before that strike.<\/p>\n<p>Even more problematic was the question of the nature of \u201cthe orders.\u201d Mineta assumed, he said, that they were orders to have the plane shot down. But the aircraft was <em>not<\/em> shot down. Also, the expected orders, especially on a day when two hijacked airliners had already crashed into buildings in New York, would have been to shoot down any nonmilitary aircraft entering the \u201cprohibited\u201d airspace over Washington, in which \u201ccivilian flying is prohibited at all times\u201d (\u201cPilots Notified of Restricted Airspace; Violators Face Military Action,\u201d FAA Press Release, September 28, 2001). If those orders had been given, there would have been no reason to ask if they still stood. The question made sense only if the orders were to do something unusual &#8212; <em>not<\/em> to shoot the aircraft down. It appeared, accordingly, that Mineta had inadvertently reported Cheney\u2019s confirmation of stand-down orders.<\/p>\n<p>That Mineta\u2019s report was regarded as dangerous is suggested by the fact that the 9\/11 Commission, besides deleting Mineta\u2019s testimony and delaying Cheney\u2019s entrance to the bunker by approximately 45 minutes, also replaced Mineta\u2019s story with a new story about an incoming aircraft. According to <em>The 9\/11 Commission Report,<\/em> here is what really happened:<\/p>\n<table border=\"0\" width=\"100%\" cellPadding=\"0\" cellSpacing=\"0\">\n<tr>\n<td width=\"15%\">\u00a0<\/td>\n<td width=\"85%\" vAlign=\"top\">At 10:02, the communicators in the shelter began receiving reports from the Secret Service of an inbound aircraft&#8230; At some time between 10:10 and 10:15, a military aide told the Vice President and others that the aircraft was 80 miles out. Vice President Cheney was asked for authority to engage the aircraft&#8230; The Vice President authorized fighter aircraft to engage the inbound plane&#8230; The military aide returned a few minutes later, probably between 10:12 and 10:18, and said the aircraft was 60 miles out. He again asked for authorization to engage. The Vice President again said yes. (9\/11CR 41)<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<p>The 9\/11 Commission thereby presented the incoming aircraft story as one that ended with an order for a shoot down, not a stand down. And by having it occur after 10:10, the Commission not only disassociated it from the Pentagon strike but also ruled out the possibility that Cheney\u2019s shootdown authorization might have led to the downing of United Flight 93 (which crashed, according to the Commission, at 10:03).<\/p>\n<p>Given the fact that the 9\/11 Commission\u2019s account of Cheney\u2019s descent to the bunker contradicted the testimony of not only Norman Mineta but also many other witnesses, including Cheney himself, Congress and the press need to launch investigations to determine what really happened.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>When Did Cheney Enter the Underground Bunker? 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