{"id":138945,"date":"2014-09-05T20:25:56","date_gmt":"2014-09-05T20:25:56","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/rinf.com\/alt-news\/?p=138945"},"modified":"2014-09-05T22:44:28","modified_gmt":"2014-09-05T22:44:28","slug":"state-battle-eastern-ukraine","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/rinf.com\/alt-news\/editorials\/state-battle-eastern-ukraine\/","title":{"rendered":"The State of the Battle in Eastern Ukraine"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/rinf.com\/alt-news\/author\/Eric-Zuesse\/\"><em>Eric Zuesse\u00a0<\/em><\/a><br \/>\n<em><a href=\"http:\/\/rinf.com\">RINF Alternative News<\/a><\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.washingtonsblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/Screen-shot-2014-09-05-at-3.11.44-PM.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-36323\" title=\"Screen shot 2014-09-05 at 3.11.44 PM\" src=\"http:\/\/www.washingtonsblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/Screen-shot-2014-09-05-at-3.11.44-PM.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"663\" height=\"466\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Showing what&#8217;s left after the invading troops were allowed to leave:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=uhFEwfF9wz0\">https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=uhFEwfF9wz0<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/cassad-eng.livejournal.com\/2014\/09\/05\/\">http:\/\/colonelcassad.livejournal.com\/1766826.html<\/a><\/p>\n<p>And, then, there is this\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/vineyardsaker.blogspot.ru\/2014\/09\/september-4th-2353-utczulu-ukraine.html\">summary<\/a>\u00a0of the situation, by the Russian military analyst, &#8220;Vineyard of the Saker&#8221;:<\/p>\n<p><em>&#8220;all the signs are that the JRF [Junta Repression Forces] \u00a0have reached their\u00a0breaking point: this is the\u00a0moment when a military force suddenly and completely collapses, like a dam which blows out under the pressure of water. \u00a0The JRF is not retreating on one,\u00a0two or even three directions, it is retreating everywhere (except north of Lugansk).\u00a0\u00a0Entire battalions are leaving the front under orders of their battalion commanders\u00a0and without the approval of the Junta leaders. \u00a0At least one such battalion\u00a0commander is already being judged for desertion. \u00a0The entire Ukie [Ukrainian Government] leadership\u00a0seems to be in a panic mode, especially Yatseniuk and Kolomoiski, while the Nazis\u00a0are mad as hell at the Poroshenko administration. \u00a0There are constant rumors of\u00a0an anti-Poroshenko coup by outraged Nazi nationalists. \u00a0And then, there are the\u00a0absolutely staggering Ukrainian losses.. &#8230;<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>&#8220;If, as it appears likely, the real number of dead JRF soldiers is anywhere near the\u00a030&#8217;000+40&#8217;000+ figure, then this is something absolutely unique in modern\u00a0warfare. \u00a0There might be an exception to this I have missed, but as far I can know\u00a0in every single conflict since WWII (and including WWII), civilians have died in far\u00a0greater numbers than combatants. \u00a0This is also absolutely true of NAF soldiers\u00a0who have died in far smaller numbers than Novorussian civilians. \u00a0So unless these\u00a0figures are completely off the mark, and I see no reason to believe this, the\u00a0Junta\u00a0forces were absolutely massacred in an horrible butchery\u00a0which cannot\u00a0completely be explained by the superb fighting skills of the Novorussians: clearly\u00a0the Junta has used these forces as cannon fodder with not even a modicum of\u00a0care, nevermind support, for them. &#8230;<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>&#8220;The bottom line is this: Poroshenko promised a victory in a matter of weeks and his\u00a0forces suffered one of the most total defeats in the history of warfare. \u00a0Can the\u00a0Ukies rearm? \u00a0Yes, to some degree. \u00a0Do they still have huge weapons stores?\u00a0\u00a0Yes, but all the (comparatively) better gear has been used by now. \u00a0Can they still\u00a0conduct a 4th, 5th and 6th mobilization? \u00a0Possibly. \u00a0Though the public mood is\u00a0ominous at this time. \u00a0Can the AngloZionists send them instructors, equipment and\u00a0money? \u00a0Yes. \u00a0Will that turn the tide? \u00a0Probably not. \u00a0Unless the Ukies have held\u00a0back and secretly trained a large number of soldiers over the past 3-4 months (like\u00a0the Novorussians have done in Russia) and unless these soldiers are now ready\u00a0to be sent in, fully equipped and ready to go, I don&#8217;t see the JRF bouncing back\u00a0for a very long time.&#8221;<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Whereas the destroyed tanks in the video shown above are clearly from the Ukrainian Army, the many fresh tanks that are shown in the video from the Ukrainian Government, below, are merely assumed to be Russian. The text says, without documentation or explanation: &#8220;Whatever it is, these units have been brought in by\u00a0Russia and they are on Ukrainian territory.&#8221;:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.washingtonsblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/Screen-shot-2014-09-05-at-3.42.35-PM.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-36324\" title=\"Screen shot 2014-09-05 at 3.42.35 PM\" src=\"http:\/\/www.washingtonsblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/Screen-shot-2014-09-05-at-3.42.35-PM.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"649\" height=\"488\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/ukraineatwar.blogspot.com\/2014\/09\/russian-moves-huge-convoy-of-armor-into.html\">http:\/\/ukraineatwar.blogspot.com\/2014\/09\/russian-moves-huge-convoy-of-armor-into.html<\/a><\/p>\n<p>All that&#8217;s not being seriously disputed is that the Ukrainian troops are being slaughtered by the tens of thousands, while additional tens of thousands just quit and are allowed to go back home in the west.<\/p>\n<p>The emerging victory by the separatists did not develop overnight, however; it has been slowly building for months. Here are some earlier reports from me on that:<\/p>\n<p>I headlined on June 29th, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.opednews.com\/articles\/America-Seems-to-Be-Losing-by-Eric-Zuesse-Obama-Administration_President-Barack-Obama-POTUS_Propaganda_Russia-140629-515.html\">&#8220;America Seems to Be Losing Ukraine&#8217;s War.&#8221;<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Then, on July 26th, I bannered <a href=\"http:\/\/www.smirkingchimp.com\/thread\/eric-zuesse\/57171\/obamas-ukrainian-ploy-collapses-ukraine-now-seeks-direct-u-s-bailout\">&#8220;Obama&#8217;s Ukrainian Ploy Collapses; Ukraine Now Seeks Direct U.S. Bailout,&#8221;<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Three days later, the title was, <a href=\"http:\/\/rinf.com\/alt-news\/featured\/obamas-u-s-presidency-hangs-thread-ukraine\/\">&#8220;Obama&#8217;s U.S. Presidency Hangs by a Thread in Ukraine.&#8221;<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Perhaps Putin now has sent in &#8220;122 army vehicles,&#8221; to snap that &#8220;Thread,&#8221; so as to get the million-plus refugees now in refugee tents in Russia back to the former southeastern Ukraine, now become Novorossiya, and to get it done before winter. Perhaps Putin has decided that now is the time finally to end Obama&#8217;s\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.washingtonsblog.com\/2014\/06\/ukraine-international-war-criminal-obama-putin-2.html\">ethnic-cleansing campaign in Ukraine&#8217;s southeast<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<\/p>\n<p>Investigative historian Eric Zuesse is the author, most recently, of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Theyre-Not-Even-Close-Democratic\/dp\/1880026090\/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1339027537&amp;sr=8-9\"><em>They\u2019re Not Even Close: The Democratic vs. Republican Economic Records, 1910-2010<\/em><\/a><em>,<\/em> and of <em>\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/dp\/B007Q1H4EG\">CHRIST\u2019S VENTRILOQUISTS: The Event that Created Christianity<\/a>.<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Eric Zuesse\u00a0 RINF Alternative News Showing what&#8217;s left after the invading troops were allowed to leave: https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=uhFEwfF9wz0 http:\/\/colonelcassad.livejournal.com\/1766826.html And, then, there is this\u00a0summary\u00a0of the situation, by the Russian military analyst, &#8220;Vineyard of the Saker&#8221;: &#8220;all the signs are that the JRF [Junta Repression Forces] \u00a0have reached their\u00a0breaking point: this is the\u00a0moment when a military force [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1254,"featured_media":138955,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[461],"tags":[115,30,32,535,59,524,92,51,523,49],"class_list":{"0":"post-138945","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-editorials","8":"tag-barack-obama","9":"tag-big-brother","10":"tag-cia","11":"tag-global-news","12":"tag-military","13":"tag-russia","14":"tag-terrorism","15":"tag-torture","16":"tag-ukraine","17":"tag-usa-news"},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/rinf.com\/alt-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/138945","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/rinf.com\/alt-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/rinf.com\/alt-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/rinf.com\/alt-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1254"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/rinf.com\/alt-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=138945"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"http:\/\/rinf.com\/alt-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/138945\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/rinf.com\/alt-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/138955"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/rinf.com\/alt-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=138945"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/rinf.com\/alt-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=138945"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/rinf.com\/alt-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=138945"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}