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期望的塔7报告由于崩溃责备火

星期一, 2008年7月7日
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它是在9月11日崩溃不仅的双塔。 未乘飞机也撞的第三世界商业中心塔落。 当一个报告到塔7里准备出版它的研究结果,麦克· Rudin考虑怎么这种阴谋理论得到是很大的。

9/11是互联网年龄的阴谋理论。

放“9/11阴谋”入Google和您得到7.9百万命中。 投入在“9/11真相”和您得到超过22百万。

民意调查在美国拾起普遍疑义在美国人民之中。

纽约Times/CBS新闻民意测验在2006发现53%那些对表示怀疑的想法布什政府掩藏某事。 另一次美国民意测验发现了那些三分之一被问的想法政府官员被协助9/11攻击或给他们发生。

在英国一次勘测由BBC的阴谋文件, 2006年执行由GfkNOP,发现16%那里那些对表示怀疑的想法是包括美国政府”的“更宽的阴谋。

这个夏天将是关键片刻为对什么的正式解释表示怀疑的那些人在9/11发生了,自称的“9/11真相运动”。

几乎七年在那9月天以后可怕的事件,美国当局就该出版总结报告关于在9/11也崩溃的第三个塔。 不同于双塔,这47层, 610英尺摩天大楼未乘飞机撞。

并且塔7成为了一个主要问题为“truthers”象Dylan Avery,互联网影片的主任大约称零钱的9/11。

“真相运动在楼7沉重围绕,并且为非常很多人民是非常疑神疑鬼关于的充足的理由什么沿着走那天”,他说。

Avery指出塔7安置了一些异常的房客: CIA、特勤局、五角大楼和代办处在纽约意味应付灾害或恐怖分子攻击-紧急情况的管理办公室。 并且某些人认为塔7是地方, 9/11阴谋被策划。

正式解释是普通的火是塔7的崩溃的主要原因。 That makes this the first and only tall skyscraper in the world to have collapsed because of fire. Yet despite that all the thousands of tonnes of steel from the building were carted away and melted down.

The way official bodies have investigated Tower 7 at the World Trade Center has made some people think they’re hiding something. Its destruction was never mentioned in the 9/11 Commission Report.

An inquiry by the Federal Emergency Management Agency said the building collapsed because intense fires had burned for hours, fed by thousands of gallons of diesel stored in the building for emergency generators. But its report said this had “only a low probability of occurrence” and more work was needed. That was in May 2002.

The task has now fallen to the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) based at a sprawling campus near Washington DC. For more than two-and-a-half years, scientists there have been studying Tower 7.

Inevitably the officials have been criticised for being slow and even of being frightened to publish.

But the lead investigator at NIST, who heads up their World Trade Center inquiry, Dr Shyam Sunder, says that two-and-a-half years is typically how long an aeroplane crash investigation takes. He added that only in the last few years did they begin to hear criticism from the “truth” movement.

“It’s only at the very end in 2005 that this group became more vocal and we found them coming to some of our meetings. But for a long time they were not even present. It wasn’t the delay that really caused them, they just woke up one morning and decided to take this on as an issue.”

Soul searching

In April 2005, the first thousand DVDs of Dylan Avery’s Loose Change movie were pressed. It cost just $2,000 to make. It was a critical moment for the development of the movement. The makers of Loose Change claim it has now been viewed by more than a hundred million people.

Steven Jones, a former physics professor at Brigham Young University, who has become the leading academic voice in the movement, first watched a video of the collapse of Tower 7 in the spring of 2005. But when he did, he said he was taken aback as a physicist.

Rubble of the World Trade Center

Will the theories ever be laid to rest?

The American architect Richard Gage’s conversion came in 2006 when driving along he heard an independent radio station interviewing the theologian David Ray Griffin.

“I had to do some real soul searching and some research. And the more I discovered the more disturbed I became and realized I was looking for… the architects and the engineers.”

Finding that they hadn’t really entered the fray by then, Gage decided he had to act.

“It just came to me, I had to start an organization Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth.”

The fifth anniversary of 9/11 was a huge moment for “truthers”. Under the media spotlight protests intensified, websites were spawned and internet films proliferated.

With the publicity also came the “debunkers”, challenging the “truthers” at every stage.

After Loose Change came a website called Screw Loose Change. And internet film 9/11 Mysteries was followed by Screw 9/11 Mysteries.

Conspiracy splits

And the “truthers” have fought back. When the US technology magazine Popular Mechanics launched a book called Debunking 9/11 Myths, it was countered with a book by David Ray Griffin called Debunking 9/11 Debunking.

Over time the scale of the alleged conspiracy has grown and grown, encompassing not just sections of the Bush administration, intelligence, but also the fire service, the police, first responders, official investigators, experts, the building’s owner, and the media, and, oh yes, even the BBC.

George Bush learns of the attack

George Bush is hiding something, says the 9/11 truth movement

And over time schisms have opened up in the 9/11 “truth” movement.

So-called “no-planers” believe that commercial aeroplanes did not actually crash into the Twin Towers, the Pentagon or a field in Pennsylvania. Some have suggested lasers from outer space were used.

“Planers” believe aeroplanes were used but argue that only controlled demolitions can explain the collapses of the World Trade Center towers.

Then there are the LIHOPs and MIHOPs. Most “truthers” are MIHOPs - they think the government Made It Happen On Purpose, planning and orchestrating the 9/11 attacks.

But LIHOPs believe the government just Let It Happen On Purpose, to allow them to justify wars in Afghanistan and Iraq and a clampdown on civil liberties.

Into this febrile atmosphere comes the final official report on 9/11.

This summer we will find out whether NIST’s report has answered the many questions that have been raised, or whether it will suffer the same fate as the Warren Commission on the assassination of President John F Kennedy and merely add fuel to the conspiracy theories.

Graphic showing WTC7 and its location on the site

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7488159.stm



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Have Your Say: TOWER 7 REPORT EXPECTED TO BLAME FIRE FOR COLLAPSE

6 Responses to “TOWER 7 REPORT EXPECTED TO BLAME FIRE FOR COLLAPSE”

  1. Bob
    Posted: Jul 7th, 2008 at 4:44 pm

    So why were there pockets of molten steel in the basement? We would like to study the steel from those buildings. Why did the government remove all of the steel from the scene and send it overseas? Our government would have us believe that we can safely fire all of the demolitions experts because we found a new way of making buildings collapse into their own footprint. Do you believe it?

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  2. Ashley
    Posted: Jul 7th, 2008 at 6:37 pm

    No steel framed building, before or since, has collapsed due to fire damage. The fires and impact damage in this building were asymmetrical. Two major news channels predicted the collapse by some 20 minutes due to it being put on the wire that it had collapsed. When it did collapse it completely ignored the 2nd law of thermodynamics, completely ignored the asymmetrical damage, completly ignored the law of conservation of momentum and failed completely and totally at every point around the perimeter within 1/10th of a second and collapsed in to its own footprint at almost freefall speed.

    These ‘normal office fires’ had some pretty remarkable results.

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  3. Liam
    Posted: Jul 7th, 2008 at 9:36 pm

    The buildings fell at a free-fall speed (under 15 seconds), defying law of conservation of momentum, which would have predicted around 45 seconds HAD there have been resistance to the collapse at each floor (which there wasnt). Then Bulding 7 just happened to implode into its own footprint 5 hours later. However, the 9/11 commision made no official report about bulding 7 in their invesigation. Coincidence? Its quite obvious that it was a controlled demolition. There are also major questions about the jet fuel (4/5ths kerasine which is not a hot-burning fuel) and its ability to melt huge steel gurders to collapse the building. Yet where is the evidence of all this mass melted steel? There are some other major questions about 9/11 which are not being answered.

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  4. Searcher
    Posted: Jul 8th, 2008 at 12:25 pm

    As a South African, we have enough of our own problems to be concerned about 9/11. My brother first confronted me with these theories, and at first, I also thought it’s just another bunch of crackpots that has nothing better to do.

    However, the one thing that got me convinced, was building 7. I had a new fresh look at the evidence, and found there is just too many things that doesn’t fit. The reactions of officials when being asked perfectly valid questions, only reinforces suspision. Now, I also discovered that the truth movement was started by first responders, who aren’t getting awnsers to their questions.

    I’m not normally inclined to believe conspiracy theories, however, the 911 truth movement has some very compelling evidence. If someone could awnser their questions, I will be happy to change my position, but for now, I do believe that 911 was an inside job.

    Remember Hitler’s words : “People would much rather believe a big lie than a small one”. I think this is the case with 911. Rather than assuming that these people are crackpots, I would suggest people find out for themselves what they’re talking about. After all, if they are right, shouldn’t Americans know? If you say they are crackpots, then it should be an informed opinion, not an ignorant one.

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  5. Ashley
    Posted: Jul 8th, 2008 at 2:46 pm

    @Searcher

    I don’t think that calling people crackpots can be used to try and discredit the arguments anymore. A poll in the US showed that 1/3 of the American people believe their government to be complicit in 9/11 in some way, that is over 100 million people in the US alone.

    Another poll showed that 60% of people in the US don’t trust their governemnt, that is just shy of 200 million people.

    The anti-truther movement claim we are kooks, conspiraloons, fringe elements etc. With the number of people who think it was an inside job, they will soon have to stop trying to discredit the messenger and look at the evidence empirically (rather than subjectively).

    9/11 was an inside job, forget the no plane theories, Pentagon, WTC1&2, space weapons, pods, holograms, missiles etc. WTC7 is the smoking gun, it was controlled demolition plain and simple.

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  6. Dem
    Posted: Jul 8th, 2008 at 5:04 pm

    The Neo-Cons desperately wanted a Pearl Harbor. They boldly published their desire for one on the PNAC website. They needed a pretext by which to invade the middle east and suspend our Constitutional rights. They sure got one on 9/11.

    Had the media not become the raging propaganda monopoly that it now is, I might take some stock in this second revisionist expose by the BBC, but no longer. The use of constant lies is now standard operating procedure in mass media and western politics. Remember, Tower 7 was rarely discussed until the Truth Movement came along.

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