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		<title>By: This American</title>
		<link>http://rinf.com/alt-news/surveillance-big-brother/secret-bluetooth-surveillance-study/4164/#comment-101363</link>
		<dc:creator>This American</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 04:25:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If The Beast System becomes so unusable (look at the Orwellian U.K.) I expect citizens will simply STOP going, stop flying, stop doing , stop buying, and the Machine will simply die a natural death of attrition. (Is that the purpose?)... (downsizing?)... Orwell was a Prophet. The Beast is Hungry. Perhaps we'll all end up going back to the land in the end.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If The Beast System becomes so unusable (look at the Orwellian U.K.) I expect citizens will simply STOP going, stop flying, stop doing , stop buying, and the Machine will simply die a natural death of attrition. (Is that the purpose?)&#8230; (downsizing?)&#8230; Orwell was a Prophet. The Beast is Hungry. Perhaps we&#8217;ll all end up going back to the land in the end.</p>
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		<title>By: ExLibris</title>
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		<dc:creator>ExLibris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 16:17:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In case people are wondering, here are 2 web links addressing government warrantless seizure and searching of your private nformation (from my earlier post above). Note that they had NO probable cause. Also, ALL International Airports are designated as "border" zones for purposes of these searches and seizures. You do NOT have to be flying internationally for this to happen to you.

"After all, the US government (for example) has already started (without any probable cause) seizing and/or copying passenger laptop hard-drives, cameras, digital memory cards, PDAs, cellphones, etc. at international airports. What other warrantless privacy invasions won’t also be ultimately enacted and approved?"

http://tinyurl.com/6cdnmu
http://tinyurl.com/5en3uv</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In case people are wondering, here are 2 web links addressing government warrantless seizure and searching of your private nformation (from my earlier post above). Note that they had NO probable cause. Also, ALL International Airports are designated as &#8220;border&#8221; zones for purposes of these searches and seizures. You do NOT have to be flying internationally for this to happen to you.</p>
<p>&#8220;After all, the US government (for example) has already started (without any probable cause) seizing and/or copying passenger laptop hard-drives, cameras, digital memory cards, PDAs, cellphones, etc. at international airports. What other warrantless privacy invasions won’t also be ultimately enacted and approved?&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://tinyurl.com/6cdnmu" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/6cdnmu</a><br />
<a href="http://tinyurl.com/5en3uv" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/5en3uv</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
		<link>http://rinf.com/alt-news/surveillance-big-brother/secret-bluetooth-surveillance-study/4164/#comment-101185</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 14:06:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can come up with 'practical solutions' which will eventually be overcome by technology.

You can pass laws, such as the US FISA which they will eventually eliminate / Ignore

You can write constitutions all day long like the US Constitution which they will usurp / Ignore,unless of course, closely controlled by the citizenry.  

You can write thousands, millions of e-mails to your 'representatives' which will immediately be shredded.

You can start websites that highlight their activities which they will brand as conspiracy antigov; people will laugh when you tell them where your info came from.

Nope,,, there is only one sure fire way to stop them. Take away their funding and take away their currency monopoly. 
In the US that would require eliminating the Federal Reserve Banks unlawful printing of the currency. It would also require a full fledged tax revolt. 

In the US, when the states held power as was the wishes of the founders, the problem of an out of control federal government would have been unlikely. The bankers were held at bay and the militias were appropriately under individual state control. Gun control was of course unthinkable. 

People tell me this is impossible without massive bloodshed. I watched the great USSR fall with very little bloodshed so it is possible. 

If great bloodshed is a result then maybe our prosperity will do a better job of controlling the new government then we have done with the present.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can come up with &#8216;practical solutions&#8217; which will eventually be overcome by technology.</p>
<p>You can pass laws, such as the US FISA which they will eventually eliminate / Ignore</p>
<p>You can write constitutions all day long like the US Constitution which they will usurp / Ignore,unless of course, closely controlled by the citizenry.  </p>
<p>You can write thousands, millions of e-mails to your &#8216;representatives&#8217; which will immediately be shredded.</p>
<p>You can start websites that highlight their activities which they will brand as conspiracy antigov; people will laugh when you tell them where your info came from.</p>
<p>Nope,,, there is only one sure fire way to stop them. Take away their funding and take away their currency monopoly.<br />
In the US that would require eliminating the Federal Reserve Banks unlawful printing of the currency. It would also require a full fledged tax revolt. </p>
<p>In the US, when the states held power as was the wishes of the founders, the problem of an out of control federal government would have been unlikely. The bankers were held at bay and the militias were appropriately under individual state control. Gun control was of course unthinkable. </p>
<p>People tell me this is impossible without massive bloodshed. I watched the great USSR fall with very little bloodshed so it is possible. </p>
<p>If great bloodshed is a result then maybe our prosperity will do a better job of controlling the new government then we have done with the present.</p>
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		<title>By: Blue Herald &#187; News News News</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blue Herald &#187; News News News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 12:53:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]  SECRET BLUETOOTH SURVEILLANCE STUDY [...]</description>
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		<title>By: yvonne</title>
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		<dc:creator>yvonne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 07:34:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This American:  The reason for the deception is obvious--to keep people from discovering the truth and revolting against them until they've got all their ducks in a row and are ready to "lower the boom" on us.  And if massive depopulation were part of your plan, how up front would you be about it? 

And an "honest"--and I might add, "trustworthy"--leader would be more concerned about preserving the rights, liberties and freedoms of the people, upholding the rule of law, and representing the best interests of his/her people, and less concerned with stealing everything we have and killing us.  And yes, warprofiteering is part of the overall goal of the neocon agenda--in fact, one might say it appears there is a massive redistribution of wealth that is also occurring in this process.  

It's like a puzzle.  After you connect enough pieces of the puzzle together, a predictable picture begins to emerge even if you haven't yet discovered where every piece fits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This American:  The reason for the deception is obvious&#8211;to keep people from discovering the truth and revolting against them until they&#8217;ve got all their ducks in a row and are ready to &#8220;lower the boom&#8221; on us.  And if massive depopulation were part of your plan, how up front would you be about it? </p>
<p>And an &#8220;honest&#8221;&#8211;and I might add, &#8220;trustworthy&#8221;&#8211;leader would be more concerned about preserving the rights, liberties and freedoms of the people, upholding the rule of law, and representing the best interests of his/her people, and less concerned with stealing everything we have and killing us.  And yes, warprofiteering is part of the overall goal of the neocon agenda&#8211;in fact, one might say it appears there is a massive redistribution of wealth that is also occurring in this process.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s like a puzzle.  After you connect enough pieces of the puzzle together, a predictable picture begins to emerge even if you haven&#8217;t yet discovered where every piece fits.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 07:08:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>-Eamonn O’Neill, Cityware’s director, claims that his study is not interested in tracking individuals but is more “interested in the aggregate behaviour of city dwellers as a whole,” adding that the “notion that any agency would seriously consider Bluetooth scanning as a surveillance technique is ludicrous.”-

Mr. O'Neill is a liar. His statement is the polar opposite from the truth. Bluetooth was created specifically and primarily for tracking surveillance. And Wi-Fi was as well but not as good as Bluetooth. The wireless communication industry has invaded our privacy so deeply and completely that I believe our every step and every sound can now be clearly watched and listened to by those who control the technology. Bluetooth was created for exactly that. 

The ones that control this technology are obsessed. They are obsessed with becoming like God. They want to be better than God. They think they can become Gods equal through their technology, becoming omnipotent and all-powerful over every creature on Earth. But they are such fools and cowards. They spend such effort to hide and lie yet fill themselves with such pride at their progress to be like God. And God will put them in their place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>-Eamonn O’Neill, Cityware’s director, claims that his study is not interested in tracking individuals but is more “interested in the aggregate behaviour of city dwellers as a whole,” adding that the “notion that any agency would seriously consider Bluetooth scanning as a surveillance technique is ludicrous.”-</p>
<p>Mr. O&#8217;Neill is a liar. His statement is the polar opposite from the truth. Bluetooth was created specifically and primarily for tracking surveillance. And Wi-Fi was as well but not as good as Bluetooth. The wireless communication industry has invaded our privacy so deeply and completely that I believe our every step and every sound can now be clearly watched and listened to by those who control the technology. Bluetooth was created for exactly that. </p>
<p>The ones that control this technology are obsessed. They are obsessed with becoming like God. They want to be better than God. They think they can become Gods equal through their technology, becoming omnipotent and all-powerful over every creature on Earth. But they are such fools and cowards. They spend such effort to hide and lie yet fill themselves with such pride at their progress to be like God. And God will put them in their place.</p>
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		<title>By: This Ameican</title>
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		<dc:creator>This Ameican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 01:40:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The thing is Yvonne, these 'elitist money changers' (and their cronie puppets) don't need to use all of this deception, and killing, and tracking, etc. etc. to achieve The Agenda, I fully suspect the majority of people would follow an HONEST leader (if one could ever be found)IF the agenda was really the goal and the GOAL was SOUND. I think rather the goal has more to do with "personal enrichment" of the 'deciders' than any 'golden age society' and more often than not it seems killing and destroying among this 'class' is more sport (and $$$) than necessity.(IMO)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The thing is Yvonne, these &#8216;elitist money changers&#8217; (and their cronie puppets) don&#8217;t need to use all of this deception, and killing, and tracking, etc. etc. to achieve The Agenda, I fully suspect the majority of people would follow an HONEST leader (if one could ever be found)IF the agenda was really the goal and the GOAL was SOUND. I think rather the goal has more to do with &#8220;personal enrichment&#8221; of the &#8216;deciders&#8217; than any &#8216;golden age society&#8217; and more often than not it seems killing and destroying among this &#8216;class&#8217; is more sport (and $$$) than necessity.(IMO)</p>
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		<title>By: Harry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 22:44:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why we need socialism?
Other than the main contradiction between bourgeoisie and proletariat – between capital and labour – in a capitalist society, other than the main contradiction between finance-capitalists and the workers, working people, unemployed, poor and oppressed in the imperialist system, there are other newly emerging conflicts between society and imperialism, which have to be addressed and dealt with urgently.

The conflicts arise from the way that our ever-growing science and technology are used by the increasingly centralized and empowered private sector in expense of the people’s destitution and planet’s destruction.

On the other hand, adventurism, individual outbursts and terrorism – the direct consequences of imperialists and reactionary forces suppressive behaviour – nowadays can have easy access to the destructive aspects of this high technology, and make things even more precarious.

Let us look at a few examples:

Genetically Modified Organisms; In this matter, the genes of living things which are the products of billions of years of natural selection, evolution and adaptation of species, are manipulated to bring more profits to the unsaturating pockets of the private sector, regardless of being harmful to humans. Natural organisms are replaced by GMOs. This practice may cause unpredictable dangerous consequences to the whole ecosystem.

Organ transplantation which is one of the extraordinary human achievements, has already taken a nasty face. Poor people are selling their organs for a small amount of money to continue their existence. This problem has led to the emergence of the organ black-market. Organ traffickers even abduct and kill the poor in backwarded countries to sell their organs to the more demanding markets.

Human cloning: In a capitalist system, the very rich are seduced to bring this technology and its related experts to their service. They will make many clones of themselves, graze and cherish them in their private islands, to use them whenever there is a need to replace their old and sick organs with new ones.

To stress the dangerousness of the present world situation, we refer you to some news that was broadcasted recently in the first few days of November, 2006:

On November 1st, very intelligent robots were displayed in Japan. These robots can be programmed for good or for bad. By ownership of the private sector, they can be programmed to be senseless immortal soldiers, prison guards, interrogators and police. But by ownership of the society they will be programmed as rescuers, firefighters, and assistants for disabled persons.

One day later the BBC reported “that with newly advanced technology, everyone could be watched by the private sector”. They will gather vast information about individuals and of course their weaknesses and will use it to enslave them.

By mid-century marine life will disappear. “Species are declined continuously and the trend is intensifying,” (Journal of Science, November 2nd). All water bodies have to be brought under the control of society. Private sector does not care about environment. It cares only about its profit.

According to the PBS, “a UN report says that greenhouse gas emissions increased last year”. Safe fuel is available, but while the corporations are fighting with each other for their survival and their supremacy, the least thing they would consider is the use of safer fuels (November 2nd).

On November the 3rd we have two surprising news, the first one: All information about making a nuclear bomb was available under the title of “Iraq – US documents” for a whole week in a US government site (ABC News).  The 2nd news was about a woman that had access to all documents in Los Alamos, New Mexico, including nuclear weapons. It is interesting to know that about 20’000 laboratories around the world have facilities to make biological weapons like germs and viruses, harmful to every living things on the planet.

As we see, the Weapons of Mass Destruction will no longer be in the monopoly of governments anymore. In the near future, individuals and groups just like governments will be able to commit mass killings and vast destructions.

Finally, in a video which was broadcasted on November 5th by the BBC, shows that cyanide is sprayed in the gold mines around the world to extract microscopic gold deposits. As a result, lands were destroyed, waters were poisoned and people became sick and are dying, as we see in the case of Honduras.

Science and technology which are the result of thousands of years of human endeavour and experience have risen to a level that ought to be brought under the control of the whole society. These achievements have to be used for the well-being of all, and this will only happen in a socialistic society!

Back to top
© 2006 DemocracyAndSocialism.com &#124; Design by Andreas Viklund</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why we need socialism?<br />
Other than the main contradiction between bourgeoisie and proletariat – between capital and labour – in a capitalist society, other than the main contradiction between finance-capitalists and the workers, working people, unemployed, poor and oppressed in the imperialist system, there are other newly emerging conflicts between society and imperialism, which have to be addressed and dealt with urgently.</p>
<p>The conflicts arise from the way that our ever-growing science and technology are used by the increasingly centralized and empowered private sector in expense of the people’s destitution and planet’s destruction.</p>
<p>On the other hand, adventurism, individual outbursts and terrorism – the direct consequences of imperialists and reactionary forces suppressive behaviour – nowadays can have easy access to the destructive aspects of this high technology, and make things even more precarious.</p>
<p>Let us look at a few examples:</p>
<p>Genetically Modified Organisms; In this matter, the genes of living things which are the products of billions of years of natural selection, evolution and adaptation of species, are manipulated to bring more profits to the unsaturating pockets of the private sector, regardless of being harmful to humans. Natural organisms are replaced by GMOs. This practice may cause unpredictable dangerous consequences to the whole ecosystem.</p>
<p>Organ transplantation which is one of the extraordinary human achievements, has already taken a nasty face. Poor people are selling their organs for a small amount of money to continue their existence. This problem has led to the emergence of the organ black-market. Organ traffickers even abduct and kill the poor in backwarded countries to sell their organs to the more demanding markets.</p>
<p>Human cloning: In a capitalist system, the very rich are seduced to bring this technology and its related experts to their service. They will make many clones of themselves, graze and cherish them in their private islands, to use them whenever there is a need to replace their old and sick organs with new ones.</p>
<p>To stress the dangerousness of the present world situation, we refer you to some news that was broadcasted recently in the first few days of November, 2006:</p>
<p>On November 1st, very intelligent robots were displayed in Japan. These robots can be programmed for good or for bad. By ownership of the private sector, they can be programmed to be senseless immortal soldiers, prison guards, interrogators and police. But by ownership of the society they will be programmed as rescuers, firefighters, and assistants for disabled persons.</p>
<p>One day later the BBC reported “that with newly advanced technology, everyone could be watched by the private sector”. They will gather vast information about individuals and of course their weaknesses and will use it to enslave them.</p>
<p>By mid-century marine life will disappear. “Species are declined continuously and the trend is intensifying,” (Journal of Science, November 2nd). All water bodies have to be brought under the control of society. Private sector does not care about environment. It cares only about its profit.</p>
<p>According to the PBS, “a UN report says that greenhouse gas emissions increased last year”. Safe fuel is available, but while the corporations are fighting with each other for their survival and their supremacy, the least thing they would consider is the use of safer fuels (November 2nd).</p>
<p>On November the 3rd we have two surprising news, the first one: All information about making a nuclear bomb was available under the title of “Iraq – US documents” for a whole week in a US government site (ABC News).  The 2nd news was about a woman that had access to all documents in Los Alamos, New Mexico, including nuclear weapons. It is interesting to know that about 20’000 laboratories around the world have facilities to make biological weapons like germs and viruses, harmful to every living things on the planet.</p>
<p>As we see, the Weapons of Mass Destruction will no longer be in the monopoly of governments anymore. In the near future, individuals and groups just like governments will be able to commit mass killings and vast destructions.</p>
<p>Finally, in a video which was broadcasted on November 5th by the BBC, shows that cyanide is sprayed in the gold mines around the world to extract microscopic gold deposits. As a result, lands were destroyed, waters were poisoned and people became sick and are dying, as we see in the case of Honduras.</p>
<p>Science and technology which are the result of thousands of years of human endeavour and experience have risen to a level that ought to be brought under the control of the whole society. These achievements have to be used for the well-being of all, and this will only happen in a socialistic society!</p>
<p>Back to top<br />
© 2006 DemocracyAndSocialism.com | Design by Andreas Viklund</p>
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		<title>By: you hoo</title>
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		<dc:creator>you hoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 17:33:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the link.  So perfect.</description>
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		<title>By: Indian in the machine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Indian in the machine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 14:28:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Elite are using technology to eliminate most of humanity........the elite engage in orgies with children and animals, while the engage their plans to kill most of humanity, some sort of response is needed otherwise, it's simply suicide.

Simply shove the evil doers out of the way.....anyone interested?

Dieter
Indian in the machine Canada
sky spirits and ufo cloudships photographed by a truthtelling indian living in canada</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elite are using technology to eliminate most of humanity&#8230;&#8230;..the elite engage in orgies with children and animals, while the engage their plans to kill most of humanity, some sort of response is needed otherwise, it&#8217;s simply suicide.</p>
<p>Simply shove the evil doers out of the way&#8230;..anyone interested?</p>
<p>Dieter<br />
Indian in the machine Canada<br />
sky spirits and ufo cloudships photographed by a truthtelling indian living in canada</p>
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