「当られたアムステルダムの喫茶店への煙る禁止」への69の応答

1. ダニエルLimberg 掲示される: 2008年1月28日6:14 pmの

   オランダの喫茶店で煙ることを禁止することはマーティンシーンがCol.言ったことをのようである 今黙示録のKurtzはIndy 500に促進切符を配ることのように、「誰かを殺人罪のために連れて来てここにある」。 応答 | 引用はテキストを選んだ | これへのリンク

2. 検数 掲示される: 2008年2月15日3:13 pmの

   それらはどれもsomking従って人々簡単chioce.itsを持つために合計のsomking喫茶店および他を作るべきではない 応答 | 引用はテキストを選んだ | これへのリンク

3. ベン 掲示される: 2008年2月18日11:58 pmの

   これはちょうど間違っている、アムステルダムである選択の自由な場所。 人々がたばこを吸うようにしたらそれらがたばこを吸いたいと思えば。 確立の従業員はそこに働くことにしたときに状態を知っていた。 obviously only smokers would want to be around that smokey environment. if u didnt like it and was concerned for your health you wouldnt have applied for the job. Reply | Quote selected text | Link to this

4. Andrew Posted: Feb 21st, 2008 at 4:24 pm

   People who go into coffee shops are generally smokers already. If you dont smoke stay the fuck out of the coffee shops and go in a cafe, itss that simple. Your economy will go to shit if this has any effect on cannabis in coffe shops. Reply | Quote selected text | Link to this

5. Vizjun Posted: Feb 25th, 2008 at 4:14 am

   Who cares “Coffee shop owners believe the laws will not effect their business as it applies to tobacco and Cannabis can be smoked pure.” the important thing is that cannabis is still good 2 go Reply | Quote selected text | Link to this

6. Jerry Posted: Mar 4th, 2008 at 4:05 pm

   That’s absurd. Protect the employees from second-hand smoke? Something tells me that anybody who would work in a coffeehouse is already a smoker. We’re all adults, why should the government tell us what’s best for us, that’s our decision to make. Reply | Quote selected text | Link to this

7. smokey joe Posted: Mar 6th, 2008 at 1:22 pm

   The ban isn’t so bad, they will still be able to sell the stuff and provide an area to smoke it in, something unavaliable in the U.K. I cant see many people getting too stressed out about it after a few smokes!. Amsterdam is still the place to go for good weed, i don’t think this move will deter many people from visiting however i hope this isn’t a small step towards totally outlawing the selling of weed. Hey, there are always the mushrooms! Reply | Quote selected text | Link to this

8. BCBRyan Posted: Mar 6th, 2008 at 10:52 pm

   This ban is actually a good thing.. When i was at the Dam every coffe shop you walked into had more second hand smoke from tobacco than from weed. This will make the shops more like vancouver. The only thing is those europeans are gonna have to learn to cure their bud longer and not smoke it with tobacco! Good step for everyones health. Reply | Quote selected text | Link to this

9. steven galbraith Posted: Mar 26th, 2008 at 11:30 pm

   i think that if the amsterdam goverment ban smoking in the coffee shops then most of there tourism would go down a steep incline.After all thats where most of there money comes from,not to mention it,s why over half a million tourists go to amsterdam every year. Reply | Quote selected text | Link to this

10. Danny Posted: Mar 29th, 2008 at 2:29 pm

    i think its bullshit. being a young stoner i will never be able have the full adam experience. the law should not change, or have seperate cafes for seperate likes. a certain amount for blazin and certain amount smoke free. simle as. it will be all them jackass non-smokers complaining about getting cancer after standing next to some1 at the bus stop who was smoking. galbraith made a good point about tourism although it will take a steep decline rathr than incline :S lol. peace. Reply | Quote selected text | Link to this

11. Fred Posted: Apr 4th, 2008 at 12:53 pm

    yeh man it pretty much sucks im trying to leave the us before this goes into efect Reply | Quote selected text | Link to this

12. perry Posted: Apr 5th, 2008 at 12:52 am

    This saddens me. I lived in Amsterdam for a year and loved it. There was no problem with cannabis. I was learning Dutch to go back and stay, but I think I’ll stop. Amsterdam is a nice city, but there are many nice cities in Europe I can go to. I’m just glad I got to experience Amsterdam and its coffeeshops when I could. Reply | Quote selected text | Link to this

13. dan Posted: Apr 7th, 2008 at 11:31 am

    there doin it coz the ppl workin in the coffee shops and passive smokin and all that sh*t!!! even tho everyone that works in a coffee shop is a stoner, no doubt about it!!!! but there might be a few saps that dont smoke so its not because they think weed is bad its the tobacco in the joint that they think is bad which is right!!! Reply | Quote selected text | Link to this

14. JAKE BROWN Posted: Apr 9th, 2008 at 11:51 am

    BIN TO DAM ITS THE CREAM GOING BK BEFOR THE BAN BUT STILL DONT BELEIVE THERE IS ANY POINT IN THE STUPID BAN U DONT SEE PEOPLE GOING INTO PUBS OR BARS WITH A SEPERATE ROOM FOR DRINKIN BECAUSE THE STAFF MAY NOT LIKE THE SMELL OR ALCHOL AT ALL DO YOU? PEOPLE WHO DONT SMOKE GENERALY DONT GO INTO A COFFEESHOP AND IF THEY DO THEY KNOWS THERES GOING TO BE SMOKE AND ITS NOT GOING TO KILL YOU SO I DONT SEE THE PROBLEM Reply | Quote selected text | Link to this

15. pingback: Posted: Apr 20th, 2008 at 7:05 pm

    Stag in Amsterdam (need help on place to stay) - The Liverpool Way [...] Stag in Amsterdam (need help on place to stay) Here’s the bad news….. Smoking Ban To Hit Amsterdam Coffee Shops By Mick Meaney RINF Alternative News A new Dutch law which comes into force in July 2008 will ban [...] Reply | Quote selected text | Link to this

16. US SMOKER Posted: Apr 22nd, 2008 at 4:51 am

    I have smoked cannabis for 13 years. I was going to visit Amsterdam to enjoy their lovely Coffee Shops to smoke their exqusite weed, but with this new ban (like the one in the US can’t even smoke in a fucking bar no more) it will most likely keep me from visiting along with most of my friends. When this ban takes affect like most everyone else I believe they will experince a decline in the incoming tourisim & the steady flow of income for all there! Reply | Quote selected text | Link to this

17. baz Posted: Apr 22nd, 2008 at 10:51 am

    Just got back, had a great time. With only just over a month to go before this ban comes into effect I saw nop signs of glass partitions or seperate rooms being constructed to protect staff from secondary smoking…hopefully this means that these wonderful places are just going to ignore the ban. The tourist trade that they cater for is just too profitable for the authorities to come down hard on them Reply | Quote selected text | Link to this

18. bazza_blue Posted: Apr 24th, 2008 at 11:28 am

    if they banned smoking cannabis in the DAM there economy would be hit the hardest, the duth government need money brought in from tourism and lets face it if you couldnt smoke ganja who would realy want to go there, i wouldnt. Reply | Quote selected text | Link to this

19. BaronZT Posted: Apr 26th, 2008 at 12:32 am

    today amsterdam is know as the weed capital of the world . and why, because people can buy there weed n sit n blaze it without any fuss. the only thing thia ban is gonna do is make people boycott dam because of the stupid laws. i wanna be able to bunn a zoot n hill there n cane it blud. just have non-smokers, and blazers cafes, its is really siple as dat. reppin for my north-west mandem zoot troop fam for life , u get me holla Reply | Quote selected text | Link to this

20. jewl Posted: May 2nd, 2008 at 9:38 pm

    BaronZT - your a cock! Go get some English lessons, you wannabe ‘G’ Reply | Quote selected text | Link to this

21. Steve Posted: May 5th, 2008 at 10:24 am

    Hi, I cant see them getting any preparation ready for this new ban even when the smoking ban hit the UK most companies and places took it rite up to the last day to get their patio heaters etc all ready. As its already been said if they cut weed out of amsterdam they would lose to much money and too many tourists. I think hardly anything will change and there will just be designated smoking areas. Steve Reply | Quote selected text | Link to this

22. H Posted: May 10th, 2008 at 2:05 am

    I’m off to Dam on the 19th June.. just got it in before the ban!! Yeeehaaa! Reply | Quote selected text | Link to this

23. JACK HERER Posted: May 10th, 2008 at 4:08 am

    GOIN NEXT WEEKEND! !!!!! Reply | Quote selected text | Link to this

24. htid_magoo Posted: May 12th, 2008 at 9:18 am

    This is shit! I hope it is only the tobacco they’re banning in Coffee Shops, I still hope u can smoke blunts =) Anyway, pure weed is muuuuuuch better than that dirty fag smoke! Im going to DAM for my second time on 24th June, so glad iv got in before the ban.. its fukin wicked out there! Reply | Quote selected text | Link to this

25. Anne Posted: May 12th, 2008 at 2:34 pm

    I just book at weekend in amsterdam (and paid for it) and then I found out about the smoking ban. Hotel just told me I can not smoke in hotel room either….!!!! I am living in Ireland and we are allowed to smoke in our hotel room…!! Reply | Quote selected text | Link to this

26. UK Person Posted: May 14th, 2008 at 5:31 pm

    Nightmare - Was planning a trip to Dam, but looks like I’ll go elsewhere then. The smoking ban in the UK was a great success with 4 of our 5 pubs closing down 2 months after the ban. I hear it has had a great effect in the clubs too, they don’t smell of disgusting cigarette smoke anymore no, now they only smell of stale beer and body sweat which is obviously a lot better??? Reply | Quote selected text | Link to this

27. mary jane Posted: May 17th, 2008 at 8:33 pm

    Amsterdam is mint. got back last week. and im booking my second trip there in july. i dont care about the ban. its still available in coffee shops, itll blatently still be ok in some hotels especially the one i stayed in. (the winston) and its basically just a kick ass time! Reply | Quote selected text | Link to this

28. mary jane Posted: May 17th, 2008 at 8:36 pm

    oh and the hash u get in stones cafe (40euros) please.. please try it!!! unbelieveable! Reply | Quote selected text | Link to this

29. Kags Posted: May 20th, 2008 at 10:51 am

    The smoking ban in Britain has been a complete success in my opinion. So much nicer to go in pubs and restaurants without having to choke because of other people’s foul, cancer-causing habit. Those who still wish to partake can do so outdoors and many pubs have created covered, outside areas for those desperately in need of a fix. Despite what ‘UK person’ said I’ve not known any pubs to close near me since the ban. If anything, it’s brought more non-smokers out as pubs are no longer the unpleasant, unhealthy places they once were. After getting used to the ban here, I visited Amsterdam in autumn 07, and found the smoky bars and coffee shops unbearable. Even the smokers in our group chose to be outside after a while, as it was impossible to breathe. I went home at the end of the weekend with a bad case of bronchitis, thanks to being exposed to second hand smoke. We’re planning another weekend away this October, and now are delighted about the Dutch ban as it means we can go back to explore more of the beautiful city of Amsterdam without being short of breath! Good decision! Reply | Quote selected text | Link to this

30. Tina Posted: May 20th, 2008 at 9:07 pm

    There have also been pubs shutting in my local area due to the smoking ban. I’m not too fond of walking past groups of drunken people outside pubs when I need to pop out either. Reply | Quote selected text | Link to this

31. Helen Posted: May 21st, 2008 at 1:49 pm

    This smoking ban is ridiculous!! Some guy from the government said “people shouldnt have to work in these conditions” or something along those lines. Surely if you decide to work in a cafe in Amsterdam you know that people are going to be smoking. Its like banning alcohol in a pub! Banning alcohol in the cafes was definately a good shout as idiotic groups of lads come over thinking they can drink and smoke cannabis and boy are they wrong! Well, nobody has a straight answer as to whats going on but hopefully Amsterdam wont lose its magic - ilove the place!! Reply | Quote selected text | Link to this

32. matt d lee Posted: May 22nd, 2008 at 9:09 pm

    dont worry about the smoking ban as the ban is only on tobbaco smoking and there still allowed to sell weed, and they have to provide a smoking area where you can still smoke weed or tobbaco so its all good in the hood !!!! Reply | Quote selected text | Link to this

33. Chris Posted: May 23rd, 2008 at 5:07 pm

    I have been to Amsterdam numerous times and loved the ‘Dam’ experience. Unfortunately both Alcohol and Cannabis are expensive enough in Amsterdam (& London), and mixing it with tabacoo was not only a cheaper option, but mean’t that you didnt smoke as much at one time. For a weekend in Amsterdam I would usually take around £200 for spending, but due to the tabacoo smoking ban I should think that either people will have to smoke less or take more cash. Although this may sound strange, I’m not completely against the ban though, as I don’t smoke cigarettes, I just empty them out for joints & infact hate the smell of someone smoking a cigarette. My 2 cents Reply | Quote selected text | Link to this

34. ben Posted: May 26th, 2008 at 11:02 pm

    it is obvious by some of the posts on this forum that once again the pathetic arguments put forward by weak minded individuals are the ones that are heard. in response to you kags if ‘one’ does not wish to suffer the terrible and inevitable bronchitis that one week away in the dam will definately cause, then perhaps ‘one’ should remain on ‘ones’ pedestal and leave the rest of the free populus to get on with it. try a different resort. and the end of the day you have and always will have the choice. some thing the smokers of amsterdam are not to be given by the look of it. if you were that upset at the coffeeshops you could have gone somewhere else like a cafe. if you do not feel you have the choice you should not be allowed to dress yourself in the morning. The pub trade in britian in my experience has suffered greatly, it certainly has in my local, where old faces would regularly come in everyday, drink about 6 pints and smoke cigarettes afetr work. all of these people now stay at home, only to be replaced by the discerning non smoker, who sings the praises of the smoking ban, then leaves after 1 drink. do the maths. my local is now virtually dead all week, and whilst the clientele have become more varied, i would say that the overall atmosphere and the sense of locals being an extension of friends or in some cases family has now been lost. all exclusions do is tend to leave a cold, less homely feel, which was certainly not in the mind of the original publicans when the phrase ‘public house’was coined. i am trying to go back this june because i feel that the essence of this wonderful place will be lost once nanny governments and restrictions on freedom are brought in. Reply | Quote selected text | Link to this

35. Nexa Posted: May 27th, 2008 at 8:39 pm

    I maybe the legal age to drink in Amsterdam, but I’m not yet old enough to smoke, which mean I won’t get to enjoy the full Dam Experience which my and my friends were planning for next Summer. For me, smoking ban is not a successful thing. Having to walk past a pub with a large group of drunks shouting and fighting when they all stand outside for a fag. All the smoking ban has done here in the UK for me, is increase violent drunks on the streets. But Amsterdam, weed capital of the world, it just won’t work out. If tourists don’t want second hand smoke, why go into a coffee shop, when there are perfectly good cafes. Smoking bans just ruin business’s, and for Amsterdam their income from the many tourists that flock there every year. If UK was like Amsterdam when smoking ban came in last year, this country would be dead, and who would suffer for it. Us. The government would just have shoved more Tax’s in our face to pay for their own stupidity. Reply | Quote selected text | Link to this

36. Tim Posted: May 28th, 2008 at 2:34 am

    maaan, there be some dumb peeps out der. Fucking right wing twats. Anywho not 2 worry, ganja’s still gona be da high grade in dam and its still gona be much easier 2 aquire than in most other countries. Quit ur jibber jabber n bun sum chalice yall. Smoking up da high way, its the highest grade, get into my heaad. Smoking marijuana, pon da corner or in a sauna. Peace n unity 2 all my herbalists, igh grade specialists out there. Freedom will prevail! RASTAFAAAARI Reply | Quote selected text | Link to this

37. Pauline Posted: May 29th, 2008 at 11:02 pm

    re Kags, What on earth were you doing in a coffeeshop if it wasn’t to smoke weed? You say it’ll be good to be able to explore the city without being short of breath, but you went into a coffeeshop, which is well known as the place where people smoke. That makes no sense to me! Regarding the ban, it’s ridiculous. Every coffeeshop I went into, the people behind the bar were smoking as they worked. You wouldn’t take a job in a coffeeshop if you weren’t ok with smoke inhalation, you wouldn’t even apply for one! The argument that their employees should be able to be smoke free is stupid - if you don’t like it, get a job in McDonalds or something! Reply | Quote selected text | Link to this

38. pinko Posted: May 30th, 2008 at 3:05 pm

    Amsterdam is not just a “Tourist Resort”… Amsterdam is the city where all the positive thinking of the great “Hippy Generation” created a warm nest for those who always dream of being in control of them selves… of being free. With actions like this, I see no respect from politicians to these people. I just feel that some of them only want to create a “political correct” self image so they look more powerfull. This doesn’t disapoint me… it makes me angry!!! I don’t want to explain to the next generation what me and all the other 60’s and 70’s hippies where fighting for, by showing them oldish books but by showing them in reality (even if it’s a cheap touristic replica by our times). Crowd control needs only one thing… to make people believe that they have no choices… Excuse me but i don’t like that. Greetings from a Greek hippy… peace!!! Reply | Quote selected text | Link to this

39. Robert Woodburn Posted: Jun 14th, 2008 at 12:26 am

    Weird shit! Reply | Quote selected text | Link to this

40. Hash Posted: Jun 16th, 2008 at 12:47 pm

    at the end of the day every 1 knows wat we go amsterdham for!! wat goes in amsterdham stays in amsterdham… smokin a joint undercover der aint gona be the same buzz blazing it in the coffe shops wiv drink in ur other hand… were gona miss that!! DONT BAN IT!!! Reply | Quote selected text | Link to this

41. Blazin' Saddles Posted: Jun 18th, 2008 at 10:12 pm

    Hahahahaha. what a dickweed! Stop trying to be Black. Your a skinny Whiteboy Smokin’ a half gram Spleen while searching forums. Get a life and stop using the word ‘BLUD’for adressing people, when someone hears that they automatically know ur a cock. P.S Fuck the Dam, Cane it up in Egypt. (But bring your own Green)! (BYOG)! (unless you like DIRTY SOLIDS…YUCK!) Reply | Quote selected text | Link to this

42. Blazin' Saddles Posted: Jun 18th, 2008 at 10:27 pm

    YO TIM. Look at you chatting all that shit about Ghana as if you had a clue. some people must agree with me here cos i HATE it when people just chat cliches about cannabis, and little soundbytes they stole off Harold+Kumar and Chris Tucker. AND GET IT RIGHT!!! ‘CHALICE’ IS THE FUCKING HOLY GRAIL, CHARAS IS THE SHIT U SMOKE. AND By The Way, IT MAKES FOR A FUCKING SHIT SMOKE AND YOU GET BLACK SHIT ALL OVER YOUR HANDS. Reply | Quote selected text | Link to this

43. Spaced Posted: Jun 18th, 2008 at 10:35 pm

    All I see is stoner kids bitchin at each other. How many of you have ever grown this plant we all love so much? Have you ever made charis? You kids just smoke and bitch. Reply | Quote selected text | Link to this

44. gregk Posted: Jun 19th, 2008 at 6:51 pm

    i’ve been to the dam 3 times and going for my 4th at start of july and dont think the smoking ban will make much difference, if you read the story instead of the headline you’ll see that you can still smoke in the brown cafe’s so whats all the stressing about. last time i went was october last year, after the smoking ban came into force in the uk. me and most of my mates smoke cigarretes and were surprised by how shit it is to sit in a restaurant or food cafe and have smokers sitting around you. i think the smoking ban in these places is a good thing but obviously its not in the brown cafes. as for kags, i really dont have a clue what your on about, you must be soft as shit if you got broncitus after a few days of passive smoking, sit outside if its that bad ye weirdo. Reply | Quote selected text | Link to this

45. Sofie Posted: Jun 20th, 2008 at 9:11 am

    I think the smoking ban is ridiculous! I have personally never been to the Dam but was hoping to go out November time this year for a friends birthday! But i dont think i will bother now, why would I want to go to another country to go outside and smoke? Thats why everyone goes there to blaze in the cafe’s. I can just smoke at home in the warm. AND smoking ban in the UK should be lifted. It’s a joke! My local pub put up heated lamps and shelter in the gardens for customers to then be told he has to take it down or the pub gets closed! Whats all that about? Are we just meant to freeze our asses of completely then or what? Reply | Quote selected text | Link to this

46. crowbag Posted: Jun 20th, 2008 at 6:36 pm

    got back from the dam 7 june,no sign of any change.if u havent been to the dam dont let the ban stop u because most coffeshops got outdoor seating anyway.and sofie yeah u can sit it the warmth of your own home,but probly smokin shit weed. the weed in the dam is in a league of its own.fuck the ban get to the dam Reply | Quote selected text | Link to this

47. Darning Posted: Jun 20th, 2008 at 7:57 pm

    I can’t see it working myself. Reply | Quote selected text | Link to this

48. benson Posted: Jun 23rd, 2008 at 12:09 pm

    hey listen up i bein 2 the dam severeal times, this ban is the same as the uk,just a tobbaco ban, so basically if u roll a joint with tobbaco in it ur brakin the law. so smoke a bong or pipe or roll em pure! the dams quality it will be no different good weed good vibes good times! Reply | Quote selected text | Link to this

49. peter Posted: Jun 26th, 2008 at 2:32 pm

    there is that is the stupid thing a Café is non smoking and a cofeeshop is smoking. Reply | Quote selected text | Link to this

50. Northhigh Posted: Jun 28th, 2008 at 1:00 am

    The no smoking in coffee shops only affects tobacco smoking. In A-dam you will still be able to smoke as much ganja you want, only you wont be able to mix it with tobacco. Reply | Quote selected text | Link to this

51. A'dam Posted: Jun 28th, 2008 at 6:39 pm

    This whole thing is EU pressure on Holland to conform to EU standards. Holland has a long tradition of community rights/self determination. That is how the whole coffee shop thing got going in the first place, marijuana and hash are technically illegal but if your community decides it is ok for them, viola, coffee shops. Same will happen here, the Dutch government takes the political stance in line with the EU, then the individual communities take their own action. Unfourtunatly the mayor of Amsterdam right now is Jewish and pretty conservative so it makes things like this a little harder, but just because there will be no smoking in restaurants and bars that are high profile, tourist spots, doesn’t mean you will get busted for smoking at the less touristy coffee shops and the late night, hard to find clubs that make Amsterdam what it is. the Dutch act like they are in line with the EU, but in the end they do what they want in their country, and the EU gets so much from NL (especially for it’s size) that they won’t bitch after the fact. so I predict I will be smelling plenty of second hand smoke in Amsterdam for a long time still, and I don’t smoke ciggs. Reply | Quote selected text | Link to this

52. Red Army Posted: Jun 30th, 2008 at 6:19 pm

    Just returned from dam last nite, i go few times in the year so i know coffeeshop owners well, they have all said that inside is pure smoke only, if thay have seating areas outside it will be ok…seems not evryone has seating areas aoutside so alot of em will be just bongs and pure weed joints….also have sadi they some of em dont care and will carry on as normal…what will they do..break up the joint to see if its got fag in it…stupid law but keep chuffin !! Reply | Quote selected text | Link to this

53. Daniel (Hackney) Posted: Jun 30th, 2008 at 8:38 pm

    you know what i say FUCK the ban im goin out there for da second tym in august and you know what im gonna get my WEED and TOBACCO and roll a nice fat doobie, kick back, relax and just blaze till my hearts content FUCK the DUTCH GOV-ER-MENT let them give me as many fines as they want i prob wont pay em anyway Much Love & Peace Daniel Reply | Quote selected text | Link to this

54. Daniel (Hackney) Posted: Jul 1st, 2008 at 3:03 pm

    Quote: The smoking ban in Britain has been a complete success in my opinion. So much nicer to go in pubs and restaurants without having to choke because of other people’s foul, cancer-causing habit. Those who still wish to partake can do so outdoors and many pubs have created covered, outside areas for those desperately in need of a fix. Despite what ‘UK person’ said I’ve not known any pubs to close near me since the ban. If anything, it’s brought more non-smokers out as pubs are no longer the unpleasant, unhealthy places they once were. After getting used to the ban here, I visited Amsterdam in autumn 07, and found the smoky bars and coffee shops unbearable. Even the smokers in our group chose to be outside after a while, as it was impossible to breathe. I went home at the end of the weekend with a bad case of bronchitis, thanks to being exposed to second hand smoke. We’re planning another weekend away this October, and now are delighted about the Dutch ban as it means we can go back to explore more of the beautiful city of Amsterdam without being short of breath! Good decision! AND THIS PEOPLE, IS WHAT WE CALL A STUPID BITCH. Dont go to the dam if u CANT HACK it’s main source of income(other than the glorious red lights). As for the smokers that didnt like the smoke DICKHEADS SHOULDN’T SMOKE THEN. i (as i said yesterday) have been to heaven on earth and it was smokey. The “quote” is what KAGS wrote and in no way represents my views on the dam as you have probably read. one last time “KAGS IS A PUSSYHOLE” Much Love & Peace Daniel. Reply | Quote selected text | Link to this

55. Louise Posted: Jul 1st, 2008 at 5:13 pm

    Quote: Much Love & Peace Daniel. Oh the irony! Reply | Quote selected text | Link to this

56. abi Posted: Jul 1st, 2008 at 9:19 pm

    LOL, Louise I couldn’t have put it better myself! Reply | Quote selected text | Link to this

57. Sarah Posted: Jul 2nd, 2008 at 12:02 pm

    Well, yet another country enters the realm of insanity or is it just a case of monkey see, monkey do and there I was thinking that the Dutch Government were unique and free in their way of thinking - living/governing outside the controlling box we all seem to be entering through no choice of our own. As much as Amsterdam has to offer - beautiful architecture and sights to be seen - lets be honest with ourselves, there’s really only one reason people go so often - the coffeeshops!!!!! Allowing the smoking of pure cannabis/weed as opposed to smoking it with tobacco really cancels out the good intentions of this law. Will there not still be “the harmful effects of smoking” for its employees to contend with. Its a bit like the hideous laws over here in Ireland whereby one cannot smoke inside the premises but yet can purchase the demon ciggies from vending machines supplied by the very same premises. I agree with the same suggestion of many of my fellow smokers who took the time to post their views - if you dont like smoke filled rooms/bars/coffeeshops - for the love of God, just dont go into them!!!!! Do we, as smokers (and adults at that) not have the same rights as the non-smokers of this world? The Dam was my salvation in this world gone mad - NOW WHAT??? Reply | Quote selected text | Link to this

58. James Posted: Jul 4th, 2008 at 2:57 pm

    You plonker! As a smoker i find it quite disturbing that these laws are so strict, almost predujice, they wernt complaing when they were raking in the millions of tax. if your not a smoker amsterdam caters for that with its cafe’s, its a beatiful city with lots to see and do without cannabis but if at the end of a long day exploring you fancy a smoke istead of the most evil of all drugs (alcohol) your punnished. its a sad sad day that the most sensible of all countrys i always thought, jumps on the not so clever EU bandwagon due to political pressure. james Reply | Quote selected text | Link to this

59. jon Posted: Jul 7th, 2008 at 6:35 pm

    i hate the way we cater to the majority and forget the minority! we make all these “sugar free, organic, smoke free” things but forget people still like the original things Reply | Quote selected text | Link to this

60. spudcore Posted: Jul 8th, 2008 at 1:38 pm

    the smoking ban will cripple amsterdam cus people go there to have a smoke and chill its a joke just like england this whole world is becoming a joke what ever happend to our rights if we wana smoke we should smoke if people dont like ur smoke then dont go there :) Reply | Quote selected text | Link to this

61. SCOTT Posted: Jul 9th, 2008 at 9:13 am

    A SMOKING BAN IN AMSTERDAM LOL.I KNOW IT IS DISCRIMANATING TO SAY THAT YOU SHOULDNT WORK IN THE COFFEE SHOPS IF YOU DONT SMOKE WEED BUT PEOPLE DONT!! YOU WOULD ANNOY LESS PEOPLE IF YOU BANNED THE VISITORS WHO ONLY WANT A CUP OF COFFEE AND DONT SMOKE DOPE. Reply | Quote selected text | Link to this

62. chris Posted: Jul 17th, 2008 at 11:44 am

    Double dutch again. Weed is more carcinogenic than fags. Politicians should stay away. I’m gonna ignore the lot and do as I please. Weed smokers shouldn’t care, we’ll just get more fucked and upset others in Amsterdam. I may even fall asleep in the streets. I thought my goverment where stupid. Well done!!!! Reply | Quote selected text | Link to this

63. Lee Posted: Jul 18th, 2008 at 2:50 am

    Nothing to worry about really guys n gals….the biege-ists of this world will never wipe out the minority, like myself, who believe it’s our right to have freedom and choice, and i do mean smokers and non smokers alike. Read on: DutchAmsterdam.nl ― First this: On July 1, 2008, a smoking ban will come into effect in all horeca (hotel, restaurant, and catering) businesses in the Netherlands. The smoking ban also extends to other indoor businesses, including airports, shopping malls, cinemas, sports arenas (but not while a retractable roof is open), discos, nightclubs, other music venues, and so on. Coffee shops ― those Dutch establishments where you primarily go in order to use cannabis( with the exception of ‘KAGS’ i believe) ― are subject to the same law as well. And, depending on what you smoke, that is both good and bad. More about that in a moment. Designated smoking areas. Restaurants and other so-called ‘hospitality venues’ can set aside designated, enclosed areas where smoking is allowed. However, in those areas, no service is provided.In other words, if you want a drink or something to eat, you have to venture into the smoke-free zone, place your order, and porter it back to the smoking den. Smoke-free Coffee Shops? The smoking ban is a ban on smoking tobacco. Hence horecarookvrij.nl, the official smoking ban information website set up by the Ministry of Ministry of Health, Welfare and Sport includes the following: From July 1, can I still smoke in a coffeeshop? Answer: Coffeeshops also are subject to the tobacco regulations and thus must be smokefree. They too can set up designated smoking areas. - Source: horecarookvrij.nl, last accessed June 4, 2008. Translation: DutchAmsterdam.nl What about cannabis? There’s been quite a bit of confusion on the issue (naturally, since government types are involved). Still, a call to Postbus 51, the centre for public service information in the Netherlands as provided by the Government Information Service, confirms that the smoking ban refers only to tobacco. It does not prohibit the smoking of, say, cannabis or hash. Pure weed This explains why, when we called a dozen coffee shops in Amsterdam to learn about their after-July-1 smoking policies, we received various answers (which will remain unattributed): “We’re too small to have a designated area, so people can smoke whatever they want. There will be only some 40 inspectors for all of Holland so the chance of getting a fine is low.” “You will still be able to smoke anything from cigarettes to joints to hash, as we have designated smoking areas.” “Technically you won’t be able to, I think… but I’m not sure. Then again, I think that since it is a tobacco law you will be able to light up pure joints… And who’s to say whether or not you put some tobacco in it as well?” “It’s a tobacco law, and right they are. That stuff is nasty! Very unhealthy! We are constructing a designated enclosure for anyone who’s addicted to that stuff. But when it comes to pure weed, man, you can smoke it here. No problem!” So there you have it. Though our current conservative government types are toiling night and day to try and come up with new ways to make life miserable, come July 1st you and I will still be able to sit back and relax at your favorite coffee shop. Light up a joint. Smoke some hash. But by all means, don’t smoke any tobacco ― unless you go to the designated smoking enclosure. Remember, tobacco is addictive as well as bad for your health. By the way, many coffee shop also sell a variety of (fresh) juices, a selection of health food, and ― generally ― excellent espresso and cappuccino ;) Reply | Quote selected text | Link to this

64. john Posted: Jul 18th, 2008 at 8:14 pm

    i am visiting the dam in nov,its the first time in 20 years. what about the pubs that used to allow the smoking of hash will they still allow pure cannabis to be smoked on the premisis or what. Reply | Quote selected text | Link to this

65. Lottie Posted: Jul 22nd, 2008 at 5:46 pm

    I think it’s a shame that something that was part, and still is very much a part of, Amsterdam’s culture has been disallowed due to the government’s ideas of ‘health’. Whether or not you believe smoking is bad for your health, if you are not a smoker it is none of your business. If it is directly affecting you, then it becomes your business, but as previous posters have pointed out, you can stay away from the coffee shops. It is not for you to criticise or blame people who smoke, just as smokers wouldn’t criticise you for not smoking - it is a right, and one that is being taken away along with everything else. We are free-thinking people, smokers and non-smokers alike, and should be allowed to make our own decisions regarding our health and what we want to do with our lives. If we listened to everything the government says about what is supposedly ‘bad’ for us, then what would we be allowed to eat, drink or smoke? On the other hand, however, something that Amsterdam is theoretically going to do is provide another room or partition so that smokers can still smoke inside. This is admirable, as in the UK we don’t have anything like that. At least they are trying to make it as comfortable for smokers as they can, although as others have pointed out some of the coffee shop owners will probably disregard the ban. Amsterdam is a beautiful city, and there are lots of reasons to go. While one of the main reasons is to enjoy the freedom of being able to smoke indoors, there are lots of other reasons to go. I can’t see Amsterdam getting as much tourism after this ban is implemented. A year ago, who would have thought being able to smoke inside would be a tourist attraction?? It just goes to show how ridiculously petty this government and the British people have become, and how weak we all are for lying back and taking everything that the government decides to do. Reply | Quote selected text | Link to this

66. LenQz Posted: Jul 23rd, 2008 at 4:04 am

    The ban is only for tobacco smoking, and nothing will change if you wanna smoke pure weed. So I don`t understand why some of you people are complaining. Tobacco is bad for you.. :) Reply | Quote selected text | Link to this

67. jimmy Posted: Jul 23rd, 2008 at 12:04 pm

    this ban is stupid but straight green is the wayas for the goverment crying bout the workers wellbeing they dnt bane overweight people from wrken at mcdonals or kfc evan know they have an eating habit and are prone to eat whatever smells good why dnt they do background cheaks on blokes before they employ them as bounces at nightclubs ,pubs mabey not as many people would get braindamage from testostrone filled fuckwits that are angry at the world they dnt usualy care y n Reply | Quote selected text | Link to this

68. jimmy Posted: Jul 23rd, 2008 at 12:05 pm

    this ban is stupid but straight green is the wayas for the goverment crying bout the workers wellbeing they dnt bane overweight people from wrken at mcdonals or kfc evan know they have an eating habit and are prone to eat whatever smells good why dnt they do background cheaks on blokes before they employ them as bounces at nightclubs ,pubs mabey not as many people would get braindamage from testostrone filled fuckwits that are angry at the world they dnt usualy care y now Reply | Quote selected text | Link to this

69. trixibelle Posted: Jul 30th, 2008 at 2:08 pm

    do the coffeeshops still sell pre rolled joints? Reply | Quote selected text | Link to this