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Friday, November 16th, 2007 周五, 2007年11月16日

9/11 Theory Destroyed By Unsung Internet Heroes 9 / 11理论摧毁了默默无闻的互联网英雄

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Rebuffed! 碰壁! 9/11 Conspiracy Theory Destroyed By Unsung Internet Heroes 9 / 11阴谋论摧毁互联网的幕后英雄

Defenders of Cambridge’s Dr. Keith Seffen [photo] and his paper, “维护者剑桥大学的博士基思seffen [照片]和他的论文" Progressive Collapse of the World Trade Centre: a Simple Analysis 倒塌的世界贸易中心:一个简单的分析 “, are popping up everywhere. " ,雨后春笋般冒出无处不在。 Well, not everywhere , but they’re popping up in a few places.好,而不是无处不在 ,但是它们却出现在少数地方。 And with one reasoned rational argument after another, they have taken me apart.并与一个理性的合理的论据后,他们已经采取了,我除了。

On Sunday, I posted上周日,我张贴 a review of Dr. Seffen’s paper 审查博士seffen的文件 , and based on the reactions that piece received, I thought I had done a fairly good job of treating it calmly and rationally. ,并根据反应这块收到,我想我已做的相当好,治愈的冷静和理性。 But it turns out that I have been deceived by yes-men and weak-kneed courtiers.不过,这也表明了我一直在欺骗的应声虫男弱跪下] Courtiers 。 The review was shoddy, full of holes, politically motivated and shameful in the extreme.检讨是偷工减料,充满漏洞的,有政治动机,可耻之极。

After excerpts from that review were posted经过摘录该检讨张贴 on usenet, at sci.physics 对用户网,在sci.physics , R. Steve Walz explained what was wrong with my analysis: ,传译史蒂夫walz解释,什么是错的,与我的分析:

Dr. Seffen assumes that a constant force, supplied by the suddenly unsupported top of the tower, was pressing down, crushing each story, one after another, all the way down to the ground.博士seffen假设一个恒定力,供应商所突然无依无靠的塔顶,是迫切的,每一个破碎的故事,一个接一个,全部下降到地面。 An elementary understanding of physics would tell you that this is not possible, unless the top section of the building — the part doing the crushing — were made of much denser material than the bottom section — the material being crushed.一个初级的理解物理学会告诉你,这是不可能的,除非顶段的建设-部分做破碎-被制成密度极大的物质比底部节-物料被粉碎。

No, the force even increases, being the sum of the total collapsing material, and since it is not limited by air resistance, being an internal air explosion, it can achieve near the speed of sound and not just some speed limited by some modified terminal velocity.不然,因为武力,甚至有所增加,目前的总和,占总塌陷的物质,而且由于它并不限于由空气阻力,作为一个内部空气爆炸,它可以达到接近音速的,而不仅仅是一些速度有限,一些改装终端速度。

So Dr. Seffen and I were both wrong.所以博士seffen和我都是错的。 The total force increases!总力增大! And it’s not even limited by air resistance!它甚至不受限于空气阻力! I’ve always thought some truthers were off in fantasy land with claims that the towers collapsed “faster than free-fall speed”.我总是想到一些truthers被关闭在幻想的土地上声称塔楼倒塌的"更快,比自由降落速度" 。 How could that happen, I wondered, unless a force were pushing down on the falling concrete?怎么可能发生,我不知道,除非武力推下来就落入混凝土?

It’sa shame both Dr. Seffen and I missed such a basic fact!这是耻辱,这两个博士seffen我错过了这样一个基本事实!

It was an internal explosion.它是一个内部爆炸。 It wasn’t limited by air resistance.它并不限于由空气阻力。 And it reached speeds well in excess of terminal velocity.它达到了速度远远超出终端速度。

A single brick could crush a huge stack of paper cups and emerge intact.一个单一的砖,可以粉碎一个巨大一叠纸杯,并出现完好无损。 And this is the sort of situation Seffen’s paper models.这是排序的情况seffen的纸模型。 But that’s not what happened to the World Trade Center.但是这不是什么发生在世界贸易中心。

In the case of the WTC, the material being crushed was nearly identical to the material doing the crushing.在案件世贸中心,物料被粉碎,几乎是完全相同的物质做粉碎。 In fact, the structural steel was thicker at the bottom than the top, in which light Seffen’s model appears even less appropriate to the event (not that this makes very much difference in the long run).事实上,在结构钢厚于底部比顶部,其中轻seffen的模式似乎更适合于该事件(不说,这使得很大的差异,在长远而言) 。

As I said, the mass collapsing continues to increase as it collapses.正如我刚才所说,大规模坍塌的不断增加,因为倒塌。

And therefore all the debris that went whooshing down the streets … it was actually still pushing down on the towers at the very same time!因此,所有的碎片到了whooshing下来,街道… …这是实际上仍然向下推动该塔在同一时间!

The point is: If the top of the building had crushed all the stories below it, then the damage to the top portion would have been significant: we would naturally expect that the amount of damage to the top would be similar to the amount of damage to the bottom.问题是:如果顶部的建设已势如破竹的故事在它的下面,那么受损的顶部部分将有显着的:我们当然期望的损害金额到顶部将类似的损害金额至底部。 Or, thinking about the thickness of the steel, we might expect the damage to the top to be even greater than the damage to the bottom.或者,思考厚度的钢材,我们可以预计损坏了自上而下甚至大于破坏底部。

You’re completely misunderstanding all the physics behind the non-conspiracy understanding of the 9/11 collapses.你完全误会所有物理背后的非阴谋的了解9 / 11倒塌。 The model surely involves the sum of the collapsing material at any instant, and does so by considering the effect of one story on all the stories beneath it, adding the stories above it which collapsed on it when the frame bent.该模型必将牵涉到一笔倒塌材料,在任何瞬间,以及这样做所考虑的影响,其中一个故事,对所有故事,它的下方,加上上述的故事,它其中倒塌时,它的框架一意孤行。

The frame bent!车架弯曲! That’s it!!就是这么简单! I’ve always thought the frame snapped into pieces, like we see in the pictures.我一直以为帧终结成了碎片,就像我们所看到的照片。

But if the frame bent , it makes perfect sense that the buildings collapsed the way they did.但如果执意框架,它使完美的意义上说,建筑物倒塌方式,他们没有。

The “bent frame” is not shown in any photographs or videos of the collapse, but that’s irrelevant. "排架" ,是不会显示任何照片或影片的崩溃,但是这不重要。

But in Dr. Seffen’s model, the top section of the building is not destroyed in the process of crushing the stories below it; instead, its entire mass is still available to crush even the lowest stories.但在博士seffen的模式,最高段的建设,是没有毁在这个过程中的破碎的故事,在它的下面,而是在其整个质量仍是可粉碎即使是最低的故事。

The MASS doesn’t disappear if it itself is crushed!!!群众不会消失,如果它本身是压死!

If post-collapse photos from Ground Zero had showed the top 20 or 30 stories of each tower, virtually intact and sitting on the ground, then Seffen’s model could perhaps be considered appropriate.如果崩溃后的照片从地面零显示,前20名或30的故事,每座高楼,几乎完整地坐在地上,然后seffen的模式,或许可以被认为是适当的。 But according to all the video and photographic evidence, it’s not even close.但是,根据所有的视频和图片证据,它甚至不能接近。

More nonsense, those hit the pile beneath at much more than any typical terminal velocity, and the whole thing releases quite enough energy to do the melting of aluminum seen in the wreckage, and the sub-red glow of the iron.更荒谬的,那些击中桩下方,在远远超过任何典型的终端速度,而整个事情的新闻稿相当足够的能量做熔化铝看到飞机残骸,以及小组红色发光的铁。

Steve almost had me confused for a while.史蒂夫差不多了,我困惑了一段时间。 He’s quite right that “the mass doesn’t disappear if it itself is crushed.” But some of it rose up in a huge cloud, and some of it poured out horizontally (or even up and outward) in all directions, billowing down every street, depositing toxic dust and other debris in nearby apartments, and so on.他的不少权利, "群众不消失,如果它本身是粉碎" ,但它的一些玫瑰在一个巨大的云,和它的一些倾注了横向(或什至和对外) ,在各个方向,滚滚下来每个街,存放有毒灰尘及其它杂物在附近的公寓,等等。

And it simultaneously remained in place to crush the stories below it!但同时仍留在地方,以粉碎故事,在它的下面!

Furthermore, the crushed material cascading down “hit the pile beneath at much more than any typical terminal velocity” which makes perfect sense.此外,粉碎物质倾泻而下"打桩下方,在远远超过任何典型的终端速度" ,这使没有道理的。 And of course “the whole thing releases quite enough energy to do the melting of aluminum seen in the wreckage, and the sub-red glow of the iron”!!而且当然, "整个事情新闻稿相当足够的能量做熔化铝看到飞机残骸,以及小组红色发光体的铜墙铁壁" !

I especially like how this explanation explains the appearance of molten metal flowing from the towers before they collapsed!我特别喜欢这如何解释,解释的外观熔融金属流从水塔,然后倒塌!

The collapse generated the heat that melted the metal that flowed out of the building just before it collapsed. It makes perfect sense if you repeat it often enough. 倒塌产生热量熔化了金属流出的建设刚刚才倒塌,它的完美体验,如果你再说一遍,往往不够的。

In light of this new explanation, we’re apparently very fortunate the collapsing towers didn’t bore a hole in the Earth all the way to China!针对这种新的解释,我们似乎很幸运,房屋倒塌的水塔没有孔一个孔,在地球上的所有途径,以中国!

If the Chinese thought we had done it on purpose and chose to retaliate, we’d be finished in no time.如果中国认为我们这样做的目的,选择了报复,我们就完蛋在任何时候。

Fortunately that didn’t happen, and with Steve having cleared up the technical end of things, we’re now in a better position to appreciate the non-technical comments…幸好这种情况没有发生,并与史蒂夫经清理了技术底的东西,我们现在处于更有利的地位,以欣赏非技术性的评论…

PatColo (Pat from Colorado?) threw in a link to the same review patcolo (八来自科罗拉多? )在另外一个连接到同一审查 at the Gold and Silver Forum 在黄金和白银论坛 :

Keep Your Hats On: Keith Seffen’s “Mathematical Model Of The WTC Collapse” Is Incoherent, Inappropriate, And Almost Meaningless 保持你的帽子:基思seffen的"数学模型,世贸中心倒塌" ,是不连贯的,不适当的,而且几乎没有意义

But Juristic Person quickly found all the weak spots 法人很快找到了所有的软肋 in that review.在审查中。

…one tangent after another, after another, after another. …一切后,又一个接一个。

Seffen’s article is only a SUGGESTION. seffen的文章只是一个建议。

The 9/11 Troof Movment has certainly presented it’s fair share of “suggestions”, hasn’t it Patcolo? 9 / 11 troof movment肯定陈述,它的公平分享的"建议" ,没有它patcolo ?

The Truth Movement is so presumptuous in it’s conviction that there is a “missing link” (bombs, thermite, thermate, mini-nukes, space-beam laser, etc) that anyone who presents an alternative suggestion that doesn’t fall in line with the pre-purchased philosophy of the 9/11 Truth Movement, is automatically chastised.真理运动是如此冒昧的,在它的信念,即有一个"缺失的环节" (炸弹,热, thermate ,小型核武器,空间激光等) ,任何人提出了另一种建议,即不属于按照预先购买的哲学9 / 11真理的运动,自动斥责。

Such is the way of the emotionally charged paranoid frenzy called “The 9/11 Truth Movement”….这样的情况是这样的感情色彩偏执狂所谓的" 9 / 11真理运动" … … 。

BaaBaaBaa found substantial merit baabaabaa发现大量优异 in Juristic Person’s post:在法人的职务:

Nail hit.钉子击中。

If George Bush said tomorrow “I ordered the planes to hit the WTC.” And gave all the details on how he did it and why.如果乔治布什说,明天"我订购的飞机击中世贸中心" ,并给所有的细节,就如何他这样做是为什么。 And in fact showed video tapes of the “911 war room”.并在事实上表明录影带的" 911作战室" 。 Yet he denies the use of CDs.但他否认使用光碟。 The “truth movement” would call him a liar. "真相运动" ,将他称为说谎者。

The Truther movement should be called the controlled demolition movement.该truther运动应称为控制拆迁运动。 Their purpose TODAY is to squash any theory that does not support the theory of CDs.其目的是为了壁球任何理论都表示,不支持两国论的光碟。 They are not injecting any new evidence just rehashing old speculation.他们没有注入任何新的证据,只是重复旧的投机活动。

Forget talking about the 19 Arab hijackers.忘记谈到19日阿拉伯劫机犯。 Forget talking about how these guys who where under surveillance from the FBI pulled this off.忘记谈论如何将这些球员,他们如果能够根据监视来自FBI退出这个小康。 Forget about how these guys where funded.忘了怎么这些家伙那里资助的。 Forget about how these extremist Islamic groups got their start.忘了如何将这些极端伊斯兰团体得到的开始。 All that is buried by the so called truth movement.所有这就是被埋在所谓真理的运动。

What I do believe is that 19 Arab Jihadist assisted by certain covert agencies planned and implemented the events on 911.我所相信的是, 19个阿拉伯圣战协助某秘密机构策划并实施了事件911 。 This scenario fits the facts as we know them.这种情况符合事实,因为我们知道他们。 And more importantly the events after 911.而更重要的事件后, 911 。 CDs would fit into such a scenario.光盘,融入这样的情况。 But I see no evidence for CDs.但我看不到有什么证据光碟。 So I chuck the CD theory out the window.所以我夹头裁谈理论出窗口。 until new evidence is found.直到新的证据发现。

Sure there are missing pieces to the puzzle.肯定有失踪件的困惑。 But that is no excuse to manufacture a puzzle piece.不过,这是没有任何借口,以制造一种益智作品。 When you pull this crap you lose credibility.当你退出这个crap你失去公信力。

I am sorry to say the real perpetrators got away with 911.我很抱歉地说,真正的肇事者得到破除911 。 And while we can find fault in the MSM.虽然我们可以找到故障,在男男性接触者。 Some blame should be shifted to the alternative media.有人指责应转移至其他媒体。 Especially the controlled demolition movement.特别是控制拆迁运动。 Who is so dogmatic about CDs.谁是这样武断约光碟。 And so focused on this speculation that any new evidence that does not have a direct bearing on the CD theory is swept under the floor.所以着眼于这一猜测任何新的证据显示,并没有一个直接关系到裁谈理论是席卷下,在地上。

That about covers it, I’d say.大约涵盖了它,我宁愿说。

It’s precise, detailed, factual … everything you could ask for in the way of scientific criticism.它的准确,详细,真实的…一切你可以要求在道路的科学批判。

There’s certainly no excuse to manufacture a puzzle piece, and I guess that’s exactly what I did when I pointed out that Dr. Seffen’s model made no sense on a number of levels.存在的,当然没有任何借口,以制造一个谜语作品,我猜想这正是我所做的时候,我曾指出,博士seffen的模式,没有任何意义上若干层次。 But it also important to note that I never talk about how Islamic radicalism got its start, and in particular但同时也必须注意到,我从来不谈论如何伊斯兰激进主义得到它的启动,特别是 I never mention anything about Pakistan 我从来没有提过巴基斯坦 .

All the rest — from the hypothetical analysis of what I would think if Bush “confessed” to the accusation of manufacturing evidence, must certainly apply to me personally, otherwise Juristic Person would never have said any of it!其余所有-从假设分析的是什么,我认为,如果布什"坦白" ,以被指制造证据,就一定要适用于我个人的,否则,法律的人绝不会说,任何在此!

Thus, it was all starting to make sense to me.因此,它是一切的出发作出明智的我。 And then Peter Lemkin started然后彼得lemkin开始 a thread at Education Forum 一个线程在教育论坛 , writing ,写

To all the 9/11 Official Version Borg elements, with love! 所有9 / 11官方版博格元素,用爱心!

Where’s The Paper? 那里的文件? Did The BBC And A Cambridge Don Commit Fraud To Cover Up Mass Murder? 当时英国广播公司和剑桥唐,徇私舞弊,隐瞒大规模谋杀?

The two main points of the post to which Peter linked were (1) that the BBC had called Dr. Seffen’s research published when it wasn’t, and (2) that Dr. Seffen and Dr. Ross Corotis, the editor of the Journal of Engineering Mechanics (which had reportedly published the paper), had failed to answer any questions concerning the status or even the existence of the paper.这两个要点职,其中彼得挂钩分别为: ( 1 )表示,英国广播公司曾要求博士seffen的研究,出版时,它不是, ( 2 )博士seffen和Ross博士corotis ,总编辑日刊工程力学(据报曾刊登该文件) ,没有回答任何问题有关的地位,甚至存在该文件。

Len Colby gave伦科尔比了 a fantastic response 1神奇回应 , hitting all the right notes and finding all the weaknesses in what was, after all, a rather shoddy report:一箭所有权利笔记和找到所有的弱点是什么,毕竟是一个相当伪劣报告:

This is the kind of silliness that could only impress a “truther”.这是种愚蠢这只能留下深刻的印象" truther " 。 Perhaps the BBC worded the article badly.也许是BBC的措辞文章连天。 The author […] indicated he visited the Cambridge Engineering department site so he should have seen the press release, which said “Dr Seffen’s new analysis, which will be published in a forthcoming issue of the American Society of Civil Engineers’ Journal of Engineering Mechanics”作者[ … … ]表示,他参观了剑桥大学工程系网站,所以他应该看到了新闻稿,其中说: "医生seffen的新的分析,其中将刊登在即将出版的美国土木工程师协会'日刊工程力学"

“will be” and “forthcoming” as in ‘in the future’ presumably the journal doesn’t list papers that haven’t been published yet. "将"和"即将举行的"象' ,在未来'想必日刊没有列出文件尚未公布。 I assume Dr. Seffen and the editor of the journal have better things to do than correspond with misinformed paranoids.我猜想博士seffen和编辑的杂志有更好的事情要做,比对应错误paranoids 。

http://www.eng.cam.ac.uk/news/stories/2007/twin_towers/ http://www.eng.cam.ac.uk/news/stories/2007/twin_towers/

If we go to the current page of the blog it turns out that yes indeed the paper will be published as advertised and is even currently available.如果我们去到当前页的博客,原来这是确实该文件将被刊登广告,甚至现在就可以购得。

http://winterpatriot.blogspot.com/ http://winterpatriot.blogspot.com/

The blogger claims to “have taught college maths” see Peter’s link but since he doesn’t tell us where or even his name there is no way to confirm this.博客声称"有教学院数学" ,见Peter的联系,但由于他没有告诉我们,甚至他的名字,是没有办法证实这一点。 He mocks Seffen’s conclusions but they passed peer review in a prominent journal and are inline with the conclusions of other highly qualified engineers.他嘲笑seffen的结论,但他们通过同侪审查中的一个突出期刊,并内嵌与结论的其他高素质的工程师。

It’s amazing how little research is needed to show that most truther claims don’t stand up to scrutiny.它的惊人,如何研究不多,是需要显示,大多数truther债权不站起来,以审议。

Amazing indeed.确实惊人。

It’s also amazing the sort of hoops people can jump through.这也是了不起的那种箍的人能跳。

The paper has still not been published, but it’s available because I obtained a copy, which I then posted and publicized.该文件还没有被公布,但它可以免费提供,因为我得到了一份拷贝,而我则张贴和宣传。 This proves that my original research was incorrect.这证明了我原来的研究是不正确。 Since the paper is available, I must have been lying when I said it wasn’t.由于纸的情况下,我要一直说谎,当我说没有关系。

Similarly, the original article published by the BBC was badly worded, as the press release from Cambridge says Dr. Seffen’s findings “are to be published in an upcoming issue”.同样地,原来发表的文章,由英国广播公司被严重的写法,作为新闻发布的,由剑桥大学博士说, seffen的结果" ,是将刊登在即将出版的" 。

Presumably the journal doesn’t list papers until they are actually published, and you can easily see that I am not only making a mountain out of a molehill, but lying about it too — especially if you forget the first sentence of据推测该杂志没有列出的文件,直到他们其实是出版的,你可以很容易看到,我不仅做是小题大做,但谎称它太-尤其是当你忘记的第一句 the Cambridge press release 剑桥新闻发布 , which says: ,它说:

A new mathematical analysis of the collapse of the World Trade Centre has been published by a Cambridge University academic, with results that challenge conspiracy theories surrounding the September 11th attacks. 一种新的数学分析的崩溃,世界贸易中心已出版了由英国剑桥大学学术,其结果挑战阴谋论,围绕9月11日袭击。

And Dr. Seffen could have cleared up all the confusion by replying to a single email, but he chose not to do that because he really does have better things to do than than correspond with misinformed paranoids.博士seffen可以及时清理了所有的混乱,在回答一个单一的电子邮件,但他选择不这么做,因为他确实是有更好的东西,这样做比较符合误导paranoids 。

All of which provides a perfect illustration of everything I have done wrong with this story, and with my blogging in general.所有这些都提供了一个很好地说明一切,我也做不好这个故事,并与我的博客一般。

I admit it: I’ve been a truther.我不得不承认:我也曾经被当作truther 。 I’ve been a misinformed paranoid.我已经是一个错误的偏执。 I’ve been concerned with whether the news was true or false.我一直在关注是否有消息是真的还是假的。 I’ve failed to see that it really doesn’t matter.我已经看不到它真的不要紧。 But it doesn’t.但事实却非如此。

It doesn’t matter whether articles in the media are well-written and tell the truth or so badly worded that they actually invert the truth and say exactly the opposite.不计较是否文章,在媒体上都写得很好,并说出真相还是那么差劲的措辞表示,他们实际上颠倒事实,说刚好相反。

Who cares?谁还管? It’s all ink on newsprint, or pixels on a screen.它的所有油墨的新闻纸,或像素屏幕。 The medium is the message.这个媒介就是讯息。 You’re not reading me, you’re sitting at your computer.你不读我,你坐在电脑前。 And so on.等。 You’re not watching BBC; you’re watching the television.您不能收看英国广播公司,你正在看电视。 Change the channel; it doesn’t matter.改变通道;不要紧。 Still the same medium.还是一样的媒介。 Still the same message.还是同样的讯息。

In other words, content is irrelevant.换言之,内容是无关紧要的。 Accuracy in content is something only a truther could get excited about.准确性,在内容,是只有truther可以感到兴奋。 And anyway, I was lying.何况,我是在说谎。

The paper is available which means it’s been published and that means it’s been peer-reviewed which means we can believe every word of it, even the parts where the author acknowledges fudging his model by saying things such as该文件可这就意味着它的出台,这意味着它的经过同行审查,这意味着我们可以相信,每一个字的,甚至部分地方作者承认fudging他的模型,说事情如

The precise variation does not matter…确切变异不要紧…

Do you see how simple that was?你看如何简单,是吗?

It’s amazing how little research is needed to show that most truther claims don’t stand up to scrutiny.它的惊人,如何研究不多,是需要显示,大多数truther债权不站起来,以审议。

So I’m finished.因此,我完了。 But that doesn’t mean everybody is finished.但是,这并不意味着每个人都完了。

James B. of Screw Loose Change started詹姆斯乙的螺丝松脱改变开始 a thread at the James Randi Educational Forum 一个线程在詹姆斯兰迪教育论坛 this way:这样说:

Keith Seffen WTC Paper Out 基思seffen世台会表列

It is via a troofer site, but I have no reason to doubt it is not [sic] valid.它是通过一个troofer网站,但我没有理由怀疑它是不是[原文]有效。

R Mackey found the paper most satisfactory r马奇发现该文件最满意 :

My compliments to Dr. Seffen, for a straightforward paper and a closed-form solution.我的恭维,以博士seffen ,为一个简单的文件和一个封闭形式解。 The guy even gives us a Lagrangian.家伙甚至给我们提出了拉格朗日。

That’s one more peer-reviewed paper for the good guys.这是一个较同侪审查文件,以供好人。 The opposition still stands at, let’s see… carry the two… zero.反对党仍然屹立在,让我们来看看…进行了两次…为零。

Is there anyone out there who still thinks the Truth Movement hasn’t forfeit the contest?是否有任何人在那里,他们还自以为真理运动,并没有放弃比赛吗?

Apollo 20 had the gall to disagree 阿波罗20居然不同意 !

Dr. Seffen is another engineer who is apparently so enamoured of his own model that he fails to make the distinction between a theoretical/calculated result and a real-world observation/measurement.博士seffen是另一个工程师,他们似乎是那么迷恋他自己的模式,他未能作出区分理论/计算出的结果和现实世界的观察/测量。

Thus on page 18 of his paper we read:因此, 18页的论文中我们读到:

“The actual time for collapse of WTC 1 ranges from 8.3 seconds to 12.0 seconds, and for WTC2, from 7.3 seconds to 12.1 seconds…” "实际的时候崩溃的世贸中心一不等,从8.3秒12.0秒,并为wtc2 ,从7.3秒12.1秒… … "

It turns out that these collapse times are not the observed times but the calculated times!原来,这些倒塌的时刻没有观测到次,但计算时代!

But then Dr. Seffen goes on to claim that his “actual” collapse times “embrace the observed period for both towers.”但后来博士seffen接着声称他的"实际"崩溃时报"的拥抱,观察期为两塔" 。

Where has anyone claimed to have observed a crush down time of 8.3 seconds for WTC 1 or 7.3 seconds for WTC 2?那里有没有人声称曾观察到一个粉碎下来的时间是8.3秒,世贸中心一或7.3秒,世贸中心2 ?

This is complete BS and is being dishonest to say the least!这是完整的学士,并正进行不诚实的,至少可以说!

Engineers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!工程师!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But SDC had the perfect comeback for that particular complaint 南区区议会有完美的复出,为特定投诉 — indeed for all such complaints. -实际上所有这类投诉。

Well, for heaven’s sake, it is your responsibility to send a detailed criticism to the journal in which the article appears.那么,对于天上的,而不应是您的责任发送一份详细的批评,该杂志中的文章出现。 Please get on it!请手!

Seriously.认真。

I suppose some of my readers will get on it , as seriously as possible, if and when the paper is published in a journal.我想我的一些读者将获得关于这个问题 ,因为那样的可能,如果当文件刊登于杂志。

In the meantime, I’m going to start paying more attention to在此同时,我要开始更加注重 pomeroo, who had it all figured out a long time ago pomeroo人都揣摩很久以前 :

Predictably, conspiracy liars are reduced to parading their ignorance of science and their crude anti-Semitism to rail against an authoritative paper that explodes their pernicious and baseless fantasies.可以预见,阴谋说谎者减至游行,他们的无知,科学与原油反犹太主义,以铁对权威文件中爆炸,其流毒和毫无根据的幻想。 As the alternative to spewing more mindless venom is to acknowledge that their evil movement is dead, the dunces must be excused for a redundant demonstration of their intellectual bankruptcy.作为替代喷涌更不合情理的毒液是要承认,他们的邪恶运动已经死了, dunces一定要多多包涵一个冗余的,足以证明他们的智力破产。

Posting all this marks a fitting end to a blogging career, I should say.张贴这一切都标志着装修完,以一个博客生涯中,我应该说。

I’m tired of being predictable.我已经厌倦了被人能够预测。 I’m tired of spewing mindless venom.我已经厌倦了喷涌不合情理的毒液。 I’m tired of being a conspiracy liar.我已经厌倦了作为一个阴谋骗子。 I’m tired of parading my ignorance of science, and my crude anti-Semitism is starting to make me sick, to tell you the truth.我已经厌倦了游行,我的无知,爱科学,我的原油反犹太主义正在开始使我有病,就是要告诉你真相。 I’m tired of railing against an authoritative paper which says things like “the precise variation is unimportant” and thereby explodes my pernicious and baseless fantasies.我已经厌倦了栏杆,对一个权威的文件,其中说,像"精确变异是不重要" ,从而引爆我的恶毒的和毫无根据的幻想。 And rather than spewing more mindless venom, I choose to acknowledge that my evil movement is dead.和,而不是喷涌更不合情理的毒液,我选择承认,我的罪恶运动是死亡。

I will never tell the truth again.我永远不会说出真相了。 Ever, ever, ever.以往任何时候都前所未有。 It wasn’t doing me any good anyway.这不是我做任何无味的感觉。 It was only an evil habit brought about by my imaginary membership in an evil movement, and I promise not to do it any more.它只是一个邪恶的习惯所带来的,我想象的成员中的邪恶的运动,我答应不会做任何更多。 Now perhaps I may be excused for this demonstration of my intellectual bankruptcy.现在,我或许可以原谅的,这证明我的智力破产。

Speaking of intellectual bankruptcy …在谈到智力破产…

I never meant to get into this 9/11 stuff.我从来没有意思要抢进这个9 / 11鬼话。 I never meant to get political at all.我从来没有意思,以获得政治上的一切。 I never even meant to start a blog.我从来没有意思,甚至开始博客。 One day I was just sitting here, drooling all over my keyboard as usual, and trying to figure out how to tie my shoes.一天,我只是坐在这里,流口水都超过我的键盘如常,并正在积极筹划,以配合我的鞋。 And the cat walked across the keyboard, and she did a little dipsy-doodle, and the next thing I knew the computer was saying “Thank you for starting a blog.”和猫走过横跨着键盘,和她作了一个小小的dipsy -派对,并在未来的事,我就知道电脑是说: "感谢大家开始博客" 。

I never have anything to blog about so I make stuff up, and I can’t tell whether it’s true or false because the sad fact is: I can’t even read!我从来没有什么要博客约,所以我做出的东西了,我不能断定,它的真实或虚假,因为可悲的事实是:我什至不能看! And I can’t spell too many words, but I have a spell checker.我也不能说明太多的话,但我有一个拼写检查。 I just type random keystrokes and backspaces until the spell checker is happy; then I move on to the next word.我刚才型随机按键和backspaces直到拼写检查,是快乐;的话,我就以一个字。 I’ve been doing this for three years now, and even my regular readers haven’t noticed that I don’t actually know anything at all about anything!我已经这样做了三年,现在,甚至我经常读者有没有注意到,我不知道,其实什么都什么!

I don’t know what I’ll do when I quit blogging.我不知道我会做,当我退出博客。 After all, I’m not smart enough to get a job, or civil enough to have any friends.毕竟,我不是聪明足以找到一份工作,还是民间,足以有任何的朋友。 I may find I have nothing to do all day but drool on my keyboard and try to figure out how to tie my shoes.我可以找到我没有什么要尽一切一天,但惠普对我的键盘和尝试,以研究如何配合我的鞋。 Such is life.这就是生活。

Well, I’ve kept you long enough.那么,我仍保留着你够久了。 I promise I will never say another word about any of this …我答应我绝不会说我想再谈一谈任何这方面…

or anything else …或任何其他…

until next time.直到下一次。 ;-)

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